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*** Official Nvidia 9xxx Series Thread***

ergonomics said:
again. you keep saying this. 'its old tech'

by that respect you saying that intel new series of cpus are 2 year old tech? will you keep saying this on every die shrink? that its just same old tech, but smaller?

IT IS NEW TECHNOLOGY. it is a big step forward to have the die shrunk, you cannot keep saying that all the next gen cards are just 'old tech but smaller' as thats a total contradiction.

if you did you would have to say that almost every single product out there is just 'old tech but smaller/changed slightly'

edit: this isnt anything personal at all, im just noticing how you say it in every thread, and you put nvidia and ati down a lot. are you honestly expecting some world changing, prototype piece of technology that is 100% different than what is used now to be released within the next 3-4 years? it will change SLOWLY, so that if you compared a gpu in 5 years to one now, you could then see the huge differences, but the way its done, is that there are small changes per generation.

no development team can afford to just spend hundreds of millions on super new technology or thinking thats 'too far out of the box'. i mean look at 3dfx..
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I think he's just trying to point out that he's hoping for a change, like that we saw between the five and six series, or the seven and eight series... those were huge changes.
 
jambus said:
I think he's just trying to point out that he's hoping for a change, like that we saw between the five and six series, or the seven and eight series... those were huge changes.
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oh yeah of course, i dont disagree that we need a decent change, but people shouldnt expect such massive changes so suddenly. it can only get better really, so we just need to be patient!
 
willhub said:
Depends if the 9800GX2 is a flop the 3870X2 might compete well with it :p
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Are you being serious here?. Do I have to pop on MSN and throw obscenities at you?. :D

You know that Crossfire is better than SLI and that the X2 3870 will win this (my view). If SLI does then I'd be very surprised that Nvidia sorted it out as it seems they will never perfect it like how ATI have managed. I hope they do it's that I just cannot see it for now.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Yes becauase it is old tech, the 8800's were released in 2006, so how are they not old tech, the 9 series are that same 2006 tech, just on smaller chips, so that makes them what, old tech, its not hard to grasp surely is it. :p
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I think he's just trying to say the presence of the smaller chip is the progress... I suppose it is he does have a point, but that having been said, it is very slow progress.
 
One thing I forgot to mention, the benchmarks seen so far for the GX2 don't use the right drivers, so we should expect to see the results to overtake the GTS SLI results given time... once again, Nvidia will see this and immediately jump to slap a juicy price tag on it...
 
jambus said:
Ah Lightnix there you are, was going to ask you about your sig. What is the Ti600?
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In the days of yore, nVidia named its cards with a namescheme like:

GeForce# Ti###

For example they had a GeForce4 Ti600, those were mostly the higher midrange to high-end cards I believe.

They also had GeForce# MX### which were the entry level cards, the GeForce4 MX cards were actually based on old GeForce 2 models.

I'm hoping that nVidia goes back to that name scheme, so that we get GeForce10 Ti### cards. That'd be cool, retro-ish and completely avoid having to either copy ATi or have stupidly long, confusing numerics.
 
jambus said:
I think he's just trying to say the presence of the smaller chip is the progress...
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I have to say that I agree, especially if the progress is towards cheaper, more powerful products that use less power, which they are.

Still, it seems a shame that Intel's Larabee gpu has been pushed back to 2009 as that could really put a cat amongst the pigeons. Apparently Nvidia are more concerned with this product than ATI's upcoming stuff which suggests that they may have something up their sleeves for later this year?
 
Gutted really. Was relying on the G100 being new architecture. Was due to build my system in the next 2 months as I've been waiting since November 07. Not sure what to do now.
 
J.D said:
Are you being serious here?. Do I have to pop on MSN and throw obscenities at you?. :D

You know that Crossfire is better than SLI and that the X2 3870 will win this (my view). If SLI does then I'd be very surprised that Nvidia sorted it out as it seems they will never perfect it like how ATI have managed. I hope they do it's that I just cannot see it for now.
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Do you actually have MSN IM?

Well if the 3870X2 wins then I'm happy because it means my 8800GT will be good untill the end of the year.
 
well we shall see soon enough seeing as they're now in stock. I'm probably gonna pick one up at the start of next month when my money comes through. I've totally lost faith in nvidia.
 
I 100% agree with LoadsaMoney. (thats something you don't see everyday :P)

Nvidia are takin the ***. 8800s came out in 2006 FFS. the 8800GTs and GTS were a refresh of the same design but neutered and a smaller process to make em cheaper. Now they are sticking 2 of them together and calling it the 9000 series, why would they deviate from the normal realse schedule, ahh yes because ATI dropped the ball big time so as ATI don't have a next gen core yet nVidia aren't releasing theirs, it is very obvious what they are doing. They could probably kill ATI if they wanted and drop the REAL 9800GTX but why waste R&D, just milk the 8800 series for a little longer and line a few more pockets.

I aint touching anything with another 256 bus!


Remember back in June 07 when we thought ATI would release a single GPU card that would beat the ultra and here we are in 2008 and ATI still can't do it and because of that nVidia don't want to.
 
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Indeed. Btw could I make a request as I'm interested. Could someone with an Ultra or GTX run a benchmark of crysis, on 800x600 resolution, all settings very high and no AA or AF and see what average they get pretty please? I might just bite the bullet and get one of these babys if the results are good :-)
 
lowrider007 said:
I haven't popped in here for a while, can anyone tell me if theres any news on the next gen single slot graphics card from nvidia because I'm truly bored of my GTX now :(.
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Nothing new to report. The new card for Nvidia on their roadmap is the GX29800 and that's being delayed more and more. Apparently won't be seen untill march.
 
jambus said:
Nothing new to report. The new card for Nvidia on their roadmap is the GX29800 and that's being delayed more and more. Apparently won't be seen untill march.
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jesus what are they playing at, I brought my GTX in 'nov 06', now were nearing 'feb 08' and still no real next gen cpu released, they truly are taking the mick, at this rate it will be 2 years from the gtx's release date before we get a next gen single slot solution, it was only a few years ago you had to upgrade your gpu every 6 months, wtf is going on, a big part of my enjoyment of PC's is upgrading and trying out new cutting edge hardware but what with core duos being so overclock-able these days and and no new next gen gpu's I'm finding it all very boring atm.
 
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