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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

They do but the gains from overclocking a 1700 are proportionately the best and it’s also the best value of the range
 
opethdisciple said:
How much do things change from BIOS to BIOS? In terms of CPU overclocking?

It's gonna get annoying test an overclock to find that things have changed once a new BIOS is released.
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The simple answer is they don't. Every single bios update so far has been mainly Ram related with a few refinements on other things. During the course of many many bios updates so far my maximum cpu clock has never changed.
Ram clock though has always gone up with every bios. It does still mean that the stability of a clock in a new bios has to checked all over again though. Because the IMC is on the cpu any improvement on the ram has implications for the overall clock.
 
Well I had fun yesterday... :o

Built my new Ryzen system and all was well until I attempted a shutdown and restart (to add my game drive).

No post.. *sigh*

Spent the next 5-6 hours trying all different approaches to get it to successfully post after a full power cycle to very mixed results.

It is really odd as once in Windows it seems perfectly stable (running multiple different benchmarks), but if I shutdown and try to restart it doesn't do anything. :confused:

I get no errors showing on the LED Readout (Tachi) which simply cycles through all the numbers / characters really quickly.

I *think* it may be my RAM but I am stumped as to why it seems stable in Windows and only causes an issue from cold boot (with no boot error codes).

I have tried the following:

- Updated the Bios to both 2.40 & 3.00 using the Bios Flash from USB method.
- Tried memory in all 4 slots and one by one - No change
- Tried with and without my game drive - No change
- Tried with a different GPU (Nvidia Titan so relatively old) - No change
- Cleared CMOS using both the on-board button and jumper - No change
- Tried just the basics and got the usual No GPU or No RAM error codes - as expected

The only "fix" that got it to boot again seemed to be a Clear CMOS followed by 10+ minutes of switching everything off.

Once it finally posted I was able to get into Windows only for it to happen again when powering off. Temps seemed fine when benchmarking (using the stock supplied cooler with AS5 thermal paste).

Specs are:

- Asrock X370 Tachi MB with latest bios (3.00)
- Ryzen 1700 @ stock
- 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LED 3200Mhz RAM
- Samsung 960 Pro 500GB NVME SSD
- KFA2 GTX1070 @ stock
- Thermaltake Toughpower XT 675w

Is anyone able to provide some advice? I can't think what else to try beyond buying different memory and trying that (TBH even if the Corsair stuff struggle at 3200Mhz I would expect it to be fine @ stock).

The last time I had boot issues like this was on a DFI Lanparty back in the early A64 days.
 
Although it should work with stock settings, have you tried increasing SOC and DRAM voltages?

It could be faulty, it's always a possibility.
 
went with a 1600 for my dev box in the end. Didn't want to spend too much.

went with an matx board in the end with appropriate case as it worked out at least £50 cheaper than going itx, and offers more flexibility - has two m.2 slots, has more pcie slots should I ever need em, and can take more ram, should I ever need it. Gives me plenty of scope to upgrade in future without much hassle.

£360 for a board, 6 core cpu, case and an nvidia 1030 gpu. not bad considering getting a hex core cpu alone would have cost that not long ago - before Ryzen.

Considering the setup I got, I will probably apply a safe OC - maybe in region of 3.6/3.7
 
oweneades said:
Well I had fun yesterday... :o

Built my new Ryzen system and all was well until I attempted a shutdown and restart (to add my game drive).

No post.. *sigh*

Spent the next 5-6 hours trying all different approaches to get it to successfully post after a full power cycle to very mixed results.

It is really odd as once in Windows it seems perfectly stable (running multiple different benchmarks), but if I shutdown and try to restart it doesn't do anything. :confused:

I get no errors showing on the LED Readout (Tachi) which simply cycles through all the numbers / characters really quickly.

I *think* it may be my RAM but I am stumped as to why it seems stable in Windows and only causes an issue from cold boot (with no boot error codes).

I have tried the following:

- Updated the Bios to both 2.40 & 3.00 using the Bios Flash from USB method.
- Tried memory in all 4 slots and one by one - No change
- Tried with and without my game drive - No change
- Tried with a different GPU (Nvidia Titan so relatively old) - No change
- Cleared CMOS using both the on-board button and jumper - No change
- Tried just the basics and got the usual No GPU or No RAM error codes - as expected

The only "fix" that got it to boot again seemed to be a Clear CMOS followed by 10+ minutes of switching everything off.

Once it finally posted I was able to get into Windows only for it to happen again when powering off. Temps seemed fine when benchmarking (using the stock supplied cooler with AS5 thermal paste).

Specs are:

- Asrock X370 Tachi MB with latest bios (3.00)
- Ryzen 1700 @ stock
- 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LED 3200Mhz RAM
- Samsung 960 Pro 500GB NVME SSD
- KFA2 GTX1070 @ stock
- Thermaltake Toughpower XT 675w

Is anyone able to provide some advice? I can't think what else to try beyond buying different memory and trying that (TBH even if the Corsair stuff struggle at 3200Mhz I would expect it to be fine @ stock).

The last time I had boot issues like this was on a DFI Lanparty back in the early A64 days.
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What revision do you have on your memory sticks?
 
Smffy said:
Haven't messed with mine in a while and running 3333 instead of 3466/3600 for more stability - anything changed with the new BIOS for CH6 to bump that? Or wait for the coming AGESA update before bothering to update again?
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Currently testing new bios I'll let you know if anything improves.
 
eyetrip said:
New BIOS for Crosshair VI?
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Yep it's on the official site now, 1501.
Smffy said:
Newest, not necessarily released officially but plenty of beta ones posted by Elmor on OCN (he's a developer at Asus)
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As above, it's been released now. No performance change nor any increase in overclocking like the notes say. They have added sub timing presets now though so that's cool. My previously stable memory settings at 3466 now won't boot successfully every time it's like they have gone backwards. I'd advise against this one myself. Waiting for 1.0.0.7
 
3466 is messed up for me with this bios. Using 3200 with the in built presets using "the stilts fast 3200 preset" I've actually just scored my best every firestrike score.
Not sure if ram or bios related but more is more.
 
1501 is the same as beta 1501 so yeah no improvements, lot of people saying the new DRAM timing 1-4 you need to take off auto (63) and find a value that works for your RAM (40/50). More work again...
 
Eurgh, after thinking I was getting somewhere the system now won't post at all..

Clearing cmos does nothing.

Only thing left is to leave it overnight to see if I can at least get it to post.

Nearly given up at this point as it won't even post from cold boot using completely stock settings. :(
 
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