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*** Official Ryzen Owners Thread ***

AMDMatt said:
It came from the product manager for Ryzen.

Increasing the voltage/overclocking over stoccan shorten the lifespan of the chip, so that's why it voids your warranty and you agree to the disclaimer when opening the Ryzen Master Tool.

If you are worried about killing your chip, use stock clocks and voltages.
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I don't use ryzen master. so have agreed to nothing :D

But just because I prefer to err on the side of caution, does not mean I should stick at stock!

I have always OCed, and never killed a chip doing so.
 
eyetrip said:
I don't use ryzen master. so have agreed to nothing :D

But just because I prefer to err on the side of caution, does not mean I should stick at stock!

I have always OCed, and never killed a chip doing so.
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Ha. :D

I've yet to kill a chip either, but there's always a chance once you start going beyond stock specifications that you can shorten lifespan.

My original recommendation of 1.4v or lower is pretty safe i think.
 
Matt can ypu pls tell me how i can see voltages with cpu z? Have version 1.78.3 too, but voltage keeps staying at 0.624, even under load.
 
alright, ordered the msi gaming pro carbon x370 and a 1700...officially an owner (once it gets here :D) could anyone advise me on 16GB ram decent to 3000-3200mhz for this board? Heard it's better when its single rank but I'm not exactly clued up with the options I have and don't want to blow 160 quid or so on the wrong chips.
 
AMDMatt said:
Overclocking voids warranty, remember that. Cannot provide you with an approximate guideline for temp vs voltage. Best practice would be to stay below the maximum recommended temperature.

The press deck applies and is a good guideline to follow. That said voltages up to 1.55v can be used if you have a robust liquid cooling solution to keep things cool.

Maximum temperature for the 1700 is 75C. 95C for the 1700X and 1800X with the -20c offset.
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Page 29 of each CPU guide TDP section in relation to PB/XFR (Normal Mode):-

Note: tCASE being discussed not tCTL.

In a heavily-multithreaded “all cores boost” scenario, this user-focused performance tuning permits the AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700 processor to ramp peak power draw up to its fused package power limit of approximately 90W electrical (note: AM4 reference power limit is 128W). Thermal conductivity of the processor die, heatspreader, HSF, and junction solder allow the AMD Ryzen™ processor to amortize the tCase implications of peak power values over time, allowing the CPU to automatically increase performance while remaining inside the thermal boundaries defined by the TDP. Precision Boost and/or XFR will level off at 72.3 tCase°C or ~90W of electrical power (whichever comes first).
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In a heavily-multithreaded “all cores boost” scenario, this user-focused performance tuning permits the AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700X processor to ramp peak power draw up to the AMD Socket AM4 reference limit of 128W. Thermal capacitance (“heat soak”) of the processor die, heatspreader, HSF, and junction solder allow the AMD Ryzen™ processor to amortize the tCase implications of peak power values over time, allowing the CPU to automatically increase performance while remaining inside the thermal boundaries defined by the TDP. Precision Boost and/or XFR will level off at 60 tCase°C or 128W of electrical power (whichever comes first).
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In a heavily-multithreaded “all cores boost” scenario, this user-focused performance tuning permits the AMD Ryzen™ 7 1800X processor to ramp peak power draw up to the AMD Socket AM4 reference limit of 128W. Thermal capacitance (“heat soak”) of the processor die, heatspreader, HSF, and junction solder allow the AMD Ryzen™ processor to amortize the tCase implications of peak power values over time, allowing the CPU to automatically increase performance while remaining inside the thermal boundaries defined by the TDP. Precision Boost and/or XFR will level off at 60 tCase°C or 128W of electrical power (whichever comes first).
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Pages 33 & 34 the overclocking section for each CPU is the same text with no further info.

Page 13 from Overclocking guide which is all Ryzen 7:-

The following changes take effect when the values are re-programmed and the processor enters
Overclocking Mode:

1) All enabled CPU cores operate at the newly user-programmed voltage and P0 frequency
value. Adjustment of the CPU clock is in 25MHz steps.

2) Internal features of the processor which control the CPU operating voltage and frequency
to manage the CPU temperature, current consumption, and power consumption to
specified maximums are disabled so that no additional stress to system voltage regulators
and thermals are induced. This includes c-state boost.

3) CPU low power c-states (CC1, CC6, and PC6) and software visible p-states (P1 and P2)
remain operational and may be requested by software so that power savings can be
achieved.

a. The P1 and P2 p-state tables may also be modified to adjust the voltage and frequency of
the CPU when running in software-requested, reduced-performance states. These may also be
left at stock values.

b. If the OS-level software power policy is also changed so that the CPU’s power-saving pstates
are not used, then these power-saving states will never be requested.

c. If AMD Cool’N’Quiet is disabled, then low power c-states will also be disabled.
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When CPUs are in OC mode all have same "headroom" limitations, ie tCTL 95°C.

From having spoken to a few people who have access to x info the whole temp offset thing is in the air, ie if the ODMs are implementing an offset or not in UEFI, then also if SW is or isn't accounting for it and then if mobo UEFI has offset and SW is doing another it could still be wrong.

I'm highlighting this as AMD/ODMs have to sort this, so users using SW monitoring get right data.
 
tried it with one stick reset cmos took g/card from working system no display ,put new g/card in old system and that's not displaying so im gonna send the lot back I think
 
cereal3 said:
alright, ordered the msi gaming pro carbon x370 and a 1700...officially an owner (once it gets here :D) could anyone advise me on 16GB ram decent to 3000-3200mhz for this board? Heard it's better when its single rank but I'm not exactly clued up with the options I have and don't want to blow 160 quid or so on the wrong chips.
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I can recommend Corsair LPX 3200 here https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...hannel-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b32-my-456-cs.html

Got them successfully running @2933 14-16-16-30 at stock volts. My board won't do 3200 at the mo but I have the bandwidth once the bios's mature.
 
Kind of wishing msi had been the ones to have stock initially.

At least they seem to be making an effort for bios updates.

Asus only seems to be bothered about the ch6.

It's a month since update for X370 pro. And it's not like it doesn't need them....
 
Cool Breeze said:
I can recommend Corsair LPX 3200 here https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...hannel-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b32-my-456-cs.html

Got them successfully running @2933 14-16-16-30 at stock volts. My board won't do 3200 at the mo but I have the bandwidth once the bios's mature.
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Cheers, will look into those, pretty annoying how MSI has starting talking about their xmp equivalent yet don't seem to have a QVL list for the board I bought anywhere (unless I'm being stupid)
 
eyetrip said:
Kind of wishing msi had been the ones to have stock initially.

At least they seem to be making an effort for bios updates.

Asus only seems to be bothered about the ch6.

It's a month since update for X370 pro. And it's not like it doesn't need them....
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The thing is most of those updates from MSI did nothing. One of them just added the option to toggle SMT. They are still a long way off also. If you look at MSI FTP they are also updating the x370 board more often than the b350 variants.
 
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