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Mariusz · 7 Oct 2022 at 23:21

What are you watching? Is Atmos shown in the app. What TV is it?

magicroundabout · 7 Oct 2022 at 23:23

Mariusz said:
What are you watching? Is Atmos shown in the app. What TV is it?

Samsung UE55MU7070

I was quickly watching The Forgotten Battle.
I'll try something else

magicroundabout · 7 Oct 2022 at 23:27

Mariusz said:
What are you watching? Is Atmos shown in the app. What TV is it?

In the app it shows Dolby Digital+ 5.1

If I select Neo 2.5 it shows DTS 5.1

ChrisD. · 7 Oct 2022 at 23:58

Use Neo.

R.O.S.S.I · 8 Oct 2022 at 06:18

Currently missing something Sonos for the lounge so think it's only right to add a soundbar to the mix for the TV.

I think the Arc may be a bit overkill.

Is there a vast difference between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Beam? I'm weighing up the pros and cons of that or if I should just save some pennies and get a Ray.

a1ex2001 · 8 Oct 2022 at 08:47

I’d get the gen 2 if it is for regular living room use it sounds better, has more features and is nicer to look at. If it was a bedroom or snug where you weren’t going to use it as much I’d go with a beam 1. You won’t be disappointed which ever you go for the sound quality from such a small package is exceptional!

Mariusz · 8 Oct 2022 at 09:44

magicroundabout said:
It Just Shows Dolby Digital+ 5.1

magicroundabout said:
Samsung UE55MU7070

I was quickly watching The Forgotten Battle.
I'll try something else

Hi I've just tried Netflix and Disney apps on my Sony XF and both only gave DD+ 5.1. tried on my Firestick 4k and Netflix was still in 5.1 but Disney I was able to get Atmos. I tried Guardians of the Galaxy 2, on the room screen in Sonos app it shows Dolby Atmos and in the About My System screen it shows Dolby Digital Plus (This is the container used). Tried Lord of the Rings show on Prime and can get Dolby Atmos there as well, so not sure why Netflix wasn't working, will have to investigate further.

It is possible to get Dolby Atmos via DD+ but it depends on apps/device, basically a minefield

Edit, Google search show's it's a Netflix limitation on the Firestick (Old OS version) why Atmos doesn't work, but it will on the newer 4K Max stick. So Black Friday purchase for me and I'd recommend trying one for yourself depending on what you watch, etc.

Mariusz · 8 Oct 2022 at 09:46

ChrisD. said:
Use Neo.

Curious why you would recommend this when none of the streaming platforms use DTS and the only way to get DTS is physical media. Is it personal preference or have you had issues with DD+?

Simmz · 8 Oct 2022 at 09:47

R.O.S.S.I said:
Currently missing something Sonos for the lounge so think it's only right to add a soundbar to the mix for the TV.

I think the Arc may be a bit overkill.

Is there a vast difference between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Beam? I'm weighing up the pros and cons of that or if I should just save some pennies and get a Ray.

I'd go Beam Gen 2 and sub mini if you can afford it. Would sound better the combined 2 than the arc on its own.

ChrisD. · 8 Oct 2022 at 10:15

Mariusz said:
Curious why you would recommend this when none of the streaming platforms use DTS and the only way to get DTS is physical media. Is it personal preference or have you had issues with DD+?

Most of my watching is via Plex with DTS tracks, then again I don't own a Samsung TV.

Mariusz · 8 Oct 2022 at 10:17

ChrisD. said:
Most of my watching is via Plex with DTS tracks, then again I don't own a Samsung TV.

That explains it, I was worried I was doing something wrong or missing out. This is why I love forums, always learning

magicroundabout · 8 Oct 2022 at 10:38

Mariusz said:
Curious why you would recommend this when none of the streaming platforms use DTS and the only way to get DTS is physical media. Is it personal preference or have you had issues with DD+?

Thanks for this. I'll make sure my TV is on DD+

magicroundabout · 8 Oct 2022 at 11:21

R.O.S.S.I said:
Currently missing something Sonos for the lounge so think it's only right to add a soundbar to the mix for the TV.

I think the Arc may be a bit overkill.

Is there a vast difference between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Beam? I'm weighing up the pros and cons of that or if I should just save some pennies and get a Ray.

Having just purchased a Gen 2 Beam I have to say it is a quality piece of kit. Sound quality is simply brilliant and build quality is premium. Not seen or heard the Gen 1 but you won't be disappointed

the-evaluator · 8 Oct 2022 at 14:35

I haven't done a direct comparison between a Gen 1 & Gen 2 Beam in the same room but I have a Gen 1 at my house and my brother has a Gen 2. The Gen 2 didn't sound massively better. I certainly wouldn't bother upgrade my Gen 1 to a Gen 2 as they bound sound very good.

I can't comment on the Ray.

magicroundabout · 12 Oct 2022 at 21:37

Mariusz said:
The streaming services IE Disney and Netflix use Dolby Digital Plus to send Dolby Atmos so you are fine with HDMI ARC. You need eARC for lossless Atmos, IE Blu-ray audio.

Just to update I've now got a new C2 and Dolby Vision and Atmos are just glorious. Dolby Vision is so nice to look at

McBain · 13 Oct 2022 at 14:36

Picked up a refurb gen 2 sub for £399, direct from Sonos. Arrived today, original box, original packaging, everything as new. Bit of a bargain

Using an arc and 2 ones as rears and it sounds incredible.

pcfarrar · 20 Oct 2022 at 10:01

My Sonos Beam 2 and Sub Mini is way better after the 14.18 update. I noticed the improvement to the bass straight away.

the-evaluator · 20 Oct 2022 at 15:44

pcfarrar said:
My Sonos Beam 2 and Sub Mini is way better after the 14.18 update. I noticed the improvement to the bass straight away.

It's the opposite for me, the sound in my study from 2 x Play 1 and a Sub Mini is definitely flatter than it was prior to the update. Bass is good, but the mid range is pretty poor.

Edit - Following another Trueplay tuning and a few days usage the sound is greatly improved.

the-evaluator · 25 Oct 2022 at 15:24

Trifid said:
If anyone has the previous sub too, let us know your thoughts on how it compares. I recently moved my sub from the lounge 5.1 setup to a pair of ones and am considering a sub mini for one of these setups and the full size sub for the other.

I did a direct comparison yesterday. There's a definite difference between the two and as you'd expect the Sub sounds better than the Sub Mini but I'm not sure it sounds £320 better.

In my house the Sub is in the living room and Sub Mini is in my study. If I didn't already have the Sub I'd be perfectly happy with the Sub Mini to go into the living room.

Trifid · 25 Oct 2022 at 15:29

the-evaluator said:
I did a direct comparison yesterday. There's a definite difference between the two and as you'd expect the Sub sounds better than the Sub Mini but I'm not sure it sounds £320 better.

In my house the Sub is in the living room and Sub Mini is in my study. If I didn't already have the Sub I'd be perfectly happy with the Sub Mini to go into the living room.

Thanks, I will add on a sub mini when the time comes, the full size sub is working very nicely as part of my indoor cycling setup where I don't have to worry so much about disturbing the neighbours. Unfortunately a new monitor will have to take priority this month as the backlight is playing up, but that's a subject for a different forum.

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