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Mestia should have improved performance for AMD GPUs now.
9.17 released
- Fixed Mestia performance issues
- Fixed some performance issues on other maps while we were at it
November Recap hot off the press.
https://joinsquad.com/readArticle?articleId=240
I'm on my phone at the moment so I can't do my normal copy and paste job until I'm home.
https://joinsquad.com/readArticle?articleId=240
I'm on my phone at the moment so I can't do my normal copy and paste job until I'm home.
I strongly suggest you visit the recap on the official site for this one. There's lots of .webm videos on it that cannot be displayed on these forums - https://joinsquad.com/readArticle?articleId=240
Recap
November 2017
Hi Squaddies,
As we move into December, the team is now in a full bug-fixing and polish mode, where all the new major features have been locked down. The team is now dedicated to fixing as many outstanding bugs as possible before entering large scale community play-testing. Please give us your strength during this time!
In return, we'd like to give you a preview of what the following major patch will contain. As always, these features are still in development and may vary in their final form. Stick with us for more development updates!
Upcoming Version Feature Preview
Coming in the next major version (Alpha v10), Squad gameplay as you know it will change dramatically. The Animation System overhaul may not sound like it changes much aside from aesthetics, but it is going to revolutionize how the game will be played. On top of that, several other changes to gameplay will mix things up quite a bit.
Infantry Movement Changes
Transitioning time from sprinting to getting your weapon up and aiming down the sights has been slightly increased from the previous value. The effect of this is that sprinting, as in real life, actually puts you in a vulnerable position. Constant running and gunning will put you at a disadvantage compared to a soldier who is crouching and already steadily aiming down sights. We're seeing that more careful movement is needed on the personal level, and more tactical movement is required as a team: bounding overwatch will become a much more important thing. (Bounding Overwatch: Covering teammates while they move up, then having them cover you while you move up.)
Transitioning from standing to prone will no longer be instant, and you don't keep your sights on the target during it. This means that prone diving, previously a fairly common occurrence to instantly get dead-accurate hits, will be GONE. Bwahaha!
Crouch Sprinting is also added to the game, meaning that you will be able to traverse distances with a lower profile, albeit at a slower pace than you would if you were standing up fully exposed.
Vaulting and Climbing
Vaulting will allow you to more quickly jump over small walls.
Climbing will allow you to get over higher walls than was previously possible as infantry. This changes the playing field, as a simple rifleman's sandbag may be enough to scale a wall previously only accessible with a ladder. Another trick would be to use a vehicle as a booster which would allow you to climb over higher obstacles.
Freelook
Freelook will allow you to look around while doing any action while in infantry. This should slightly increase situational awareness while moving and reloading. Remember to watch your back!
Weapons Handling Changes
Weapon handling will change to feel more fluent and realistic, with a lot more polish in the way it moves and should feel much more immersive. Note that this will be the first iteration of this system and the precise sway/recoil/transition numbers will still be tweaked, and that the exact values we release with may not be the same as those shown here. However, the changes seen will still be in this direction.
We will be slightly increasing sway effects when standing or after sprinting. This will put more emphasis on your posture and stamina, as well as taking your time to take your shots. This will benefit players who move carefully and deliberately. Good position and stance will give a more tangible advantage.
Weapon Collision
The length of your weapon also now plays a factor in how you maneuver through tight spaces and fire from cover. When you are too close to an obstacle or a surface, your weapon will be forcibly lowered and you will be prevented from firing and aiming down your sights. This naturally depends on the weapon in question, so bringing a long marksman rifle into small CQB spaces will be ill advised, whereas pistols will have a natural advantage in tight situations.
Sights and Optics
Scoped weapons will have reduced peripheral vision. This will reduce their spotting advantage at distance. The reticles also have been designed to allow for them to be used to gauge the fall of your shot.
Ironsight weapons will have a very slight permanent zoom increase when aiming down the sights to increase the ability to effectively return fire against scoped opponents.
Adjustable Sights
All infantry weapons (barring those with fixed sights) will have the ability for you to adjust their sights depending on the range of your target. This is especially useful for grenade launchers and dumb-fire rocket launchers as they rely heavily on the shooter accounting for the ballistic trajectory to score a first shot hit. Being able to adjust your sights to compensate for the distance to target will greatly improve the chances of a first shot hit. This feature is also included in all small arms as well, ranging from rifles to machine guns, even on the PPSh-41 submachine gun. Don't forget to hit the range to brush up on your skills, squaddies.
New Role: Machine Gunner
A new role we have added is the Machine Gunner. A team-wide limited role, the Machine Gunner is packing a larger General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG). Compared to the Automatic Rifleman's LMG, the Machine Gunner's GPMG is typically a larger caliber weapon capable of putting down suppressive fire out to much longer distances and can penetrate more surfaces with greater reliability. Due to the size and weight of the GPMG, it is generally unsuitable for firing either on the move or in CQB situations. We will be introducing the M240B and the PKM with this new role.
Bipods
Bipods will allow Light Machine Guns (LMGs) and General Purpose Machine Guns (GPMGs) to set up on positions and put down a large volume of fire with terrifying accuracy. The Automatic Rifleman and Machine Gunner roles intention were to provide suppression. In reality, they were often quickly picked off by Marksmen or Riflemen with optics, as they were limited in their ability to effectively return fire at range. With the introduction of bipods, from what we've seen so far, the machine gun is a force to be reckoned with. It is VERY deadly, even at range, when set up with a bipod. The changes to sway and prone diving (see above) give the automatic rifleman a much larger window to fire when after an enemy has been spotted, before taking return fire. The best way to deal with an Automatic Rifleman is to flank them, because they will have the power to simply make swiss cheese out of you if you try to attack from the front.
Furthermore, each squad will have access to an extra Automatic Rifleman outside of the special kit restrictions, allowing a squad more freedom to pick other specialty kits as well.
Changes to the Rush Meta
After reviewing community and internal feedback, we have decided that we are unhappy with the "Rush the first enemy flags" AAS meta, as it is an unforgiving type of gameplay that fails to put emphasis on the gradual capping of flags and territory that AAS was designed around. To address this, non-capturable flags will no longer be blockable by the enemy. For example: if one soldier is in the capture zone of their team's first flag and nine enemies are in that cap zone as well trying to block it, the flag will still be captured. Once they find him and kill him, the flag will (obviously) stop capping.
This should severely reduce the "Rush Flags" meta, and shift the focus more towards the linear progression of moving from flag area to flag area, as well as having a proper supply train with FOBs and logistics. Blocking a flag is technically still possible if you eliminate the entire attacking force, but it will require more resources to do and is more likely to fail.
Vehicle Changes
Entering or exiting vehicles and switching seats inside vehicles is no longer instant. The duration depends on the vehicle and the type of seat. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of soloing vehicles when a vehicle is flanked or ambushed. Either it will not be able to drive away or it won't be able to return fire instantly. Bring a friend!
Several vehicles will have access to secondary weapons and different ammunition types. For example, the Russian BTR-82A will have access to 30mm High Explosive (HE) ammunition which deal explosive damage suitable for dealing with infantry, in addition to its normal 30mm Armor Piercing (AP) rounds. BTR and BRDM variants also have access to a secondary coaxial machinegun. Some vehicles also have access to smoke launchers, providing a way to either conceal their movements or aid infantry by providing a large smokescreen. Mortars as well will have smoke-screen rounds added to their standard compliment of high explosive ordnance.
Logistics Changes
One change that we're implementing to Logistics is for the Logistics carrier to load on varying amounts of either construction or ammunition points. For example, an Ural supply truck has 2000 points worth of space to load either construction or ammunition. If a FOB in the front is running mortars or simply just needs more ammo, the truck can run a full load of ammo rather than wasting half of that space to haul unneeded construction materials. Unsecured oversized loads will be issued a moving citation.
The process of loading and unloading is now treated like a weapon on a vehicle, in that Construction and Ammo occupy different inventory slots, and one button (Default: Left Mouse Button) will unload, and another (Default: Right Mouse Button) will load supplies onto the vehicle.
Round Start Staging Timer
Instead of a 3-minute pre-match spawn timer, there will be a 3-minute staging period before matches. During this time, you can spawn in at your team's Main Base, organize your squads, roles, get to your vehicles, and prepare to move out. However, you are unable to leave the Main Base area until the timer has fully elapsed. To prevent griefing issues, you cannot fire your weapons during the staging period.
We're supremely grateful for the community we have and we absolutely do not want to disappoint, despite taking us this long to get our next major release together. Please stay tuned for further updates as our team is on overdrive in hammering out the bugs.
Offworld Out.
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Recap
November 2017
Hi Squaddies,
As we move into December, the team is now in a full bug-fixing and polish mode, where all the new major features have been locked down. The team is now dedicated to fixing as many outstanding bugs as possible before entering large scale community play-testing. Please give us your strength during this time!
In return, we'd like to give you a preview of what the following major patch will contain. As always, these features are still in development and may vary in their final form. Stick with us for more development updates!
Upcoming Version Feature Preview
Coming in the next major version (Alpha v10), Squad gameplay as you know it will change dramatically. The Animation System overhaul may not sound like it changes much aside from aesthetics, but it is going to revolutionize how the game will be played. On top of that, several other changes to gameplay will mix things up quite a bit.
Infantry Movement Changes
Transitioning time from sprinting to getting your weapon up and aiming down the sights has been slightly increased from the previous value. The effect of this is that sprinting, as in real life, actually puts you in a vulnerable position. Constant running and gunning will put you at a disadvantage compared to a soldier who is crouching and already steadily aiming down sights. We're seeing that more careful movement is needed on the personal level, and more tactical movement is required as a team: bounding overwatch will become a much more important thing. (Bounding Overwatch: Covering teammates while they move up, then having them cover you while you move up.)
Transitioning from standing to prone will no longer be instant, and you don't keep your sights on the target during it. This means that prone diving, previously a fairly common occurrence to instantly get dead-accurate hits, will be GONE. Bwahaha!
Crouch Sprinting is also added to the game, meaning that you will be able to traverse distances with a lower profile, albeit at a slower pace than you would if you were standing up fully exposed.
Vaulting and Climbing
Vaulting will allow you to more quickly jump over small walls.
Climbing will allow you to get over higher walls than was previously possible as infantry. This changes the playing field, as a simple rifleman's sandbag may be enough to scale a wall previously only accessible with a ladder. Another trick would be to use a vehicle as a booster which would allow you to climb over higher obstacles.
Freelook
Freelook will allow you to look around while doing any action while in infantry. This should slightly increase situational awareness while moving and reloading. Remember to watch your back!
Weapons Handling Changes
Weapon handling will change to feel more fluent and realistic, with a lot more polish in the way it moves and should feel much more immersive. Note that this will be the first iteration of this system and the precise sway/recoil/transition numbers will still be tweaked, and that the exact values we release with may not be the same as those shown here. However, the changes seen will still be in this direction.
We will be slightly increasing sway effects when standing or after sprinting. This will put more emphasis on your posture and stamina, as well as taking your time to take your shots. This will benefit players who move carefully and deliberately. Good position and stance will give a more tangible advantage.
Weapon Collision
The length of your weapon also now plays a factor in how you maneuver through tight spaces and fire from cover. When you are too close to an obstacle or a surface, your weapon will be forcibly lowered and you will be prevented from firing and aiming down your sights. This naturally depends on the weapon in question, so bringing a long marksman rifle into small CQB spaces will be ill advised, whereas pistols will have a natural advantage in tight situations.
Sights and Optics
Scoped weapons will have reduced peripheral vision. This will reduce their spotting advantage at distance. The reticles also have been designed to allow for them to be used to gauge the fall of your shot.
Ironsight weapons will have a very slight permanent zoom increase when aiming down the sights to increase the ability to effectively return fire against scoped opponents.
Adjustable Sights
All infantry weapons (barring those with fixed sights) will have the ability for you to adjust their sights depending on the range of your target. This is especially useful for grenade launchers and dumb-fire rocket launchers as they rely heavily on the shooter accounting for the ballistic trajectory to score a first shot hit. Being able to adjust your sights to compensate for the distance to target will greatly improve the chances of a first shot hit. This feature is also included in all small arms as well, ranging from rifles to machine guns, even on the PPSh-41 submachine gun. Don't forget to hit the range to brush up on your skills, squaddies.
New Role: Machine Gunner
A new role we have added is the Machine Gunner. A team-wide limited role, the Machine Gunner is packing a larger General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG). Compared to the Automatic Rifleman's LMG, the Machine Gunner's GPMG is typically a larger caliber weapon capable of putting down suppressive fire out to much longer distances and can penetrate more surfaces with greater reliability. Due to the size and weight of the GPMG, it is generally unsuitable for firing either on the move or in CQB situations. We will be introducing the M240B and the PKM with this new role.
Bipods
Bipods will allow Light Machine Guns (LMGs) and General Purpose Machine Guns (GPMGs) to set up on positions and put down a large volume of fire with terrifying accuracy. The Automatic Rifleman and Machine Gunner roles intention were to provide suppression. In reality, they were often quickly picked off by Marksmen or Riflemen with optics, as they were limited in their ability to effectively return fire at range. With the introduction of bipods, from what we've seen so far, the machine gun is a force to be reckoned with. It is VERY deadly, even at range, when set up with a bipod. The changes to sway and prone diving (see above) give the automatic rifleman a much larger window to fire when after an enemy has been spotted, before taking return fire. The best way to deal with an Automatic Rifleman is to flank them, because they will have the power to simply make swiss cheese out of you if you try to attack from the front.
Furthermore, each squad will have access to an extra Automatic Rifleman outside of the special kit restrictions, allowing a squad more freedom to pick other specialty kits as well.
Changes to the Rush Meta
After reviewing community and internal feedback, we have decided that we are unhappy with the "Rush the first enemy flags" AAS meta, as it is an unforgiving type of gameplay that fails to put emphasis on the gradual capping of flags and territory that AAS was designed around. To address this, non-capturable flags will no longer be blockable by the enemy. For example: if one soldier is in the capture zone of their team's first flag and nine enemies are in that cap zone as well trying to block it, the flag will still be captured. Once they find him and kill him, the flag will (obviously) stop capping.
This should severely reduce the "Rush Flags" meta, and shift the focus more towards the linear progression of moving from flag area to flag area, as well as having a proper supply train with FOBs and logistics. Blocking a flag is technically still possible if you eliminate the entire attacking force, but it will require more resources to do and is more likely to fail.
Vehicle Changes
Entering or exiting vehicles and switching seats inside vehicles is no longer instant. The duration depends on the vehicle and the type of seat. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of soloing vehicles when a vehicle is flanked or ambushed. Either it will not be able to drive away or it won't be able to return fire instantly. Bring a friend!
Several vehicles will have access to secondary weapons and different ammunition types. For example, the Russian BTR-82A will have access to 30mm High Explosive (HE) ammunition which deal explosive damage suitable for dealing with infantry, in addition to its normal 30mm Armor Piercing (AP) rounds. BTR and BRDM variants also have access to a secondary coaxial machinegun. Some vehicles also have access to smoke launchers, providing a way to either conceal their movements or aid infantry by providing a large smokescreen. Mortars as well will have smoke-screen rounds added to their standard compliment of high explosive ordnance.
Logistics Changes
One change that we're implementing to Logistics is for the Logistics carrier to load on varying amounts of either construction or ammunition points. For example, an Ural supply truck has 2000 points worth of space to load either construction or ammunition. If a FOB in the front is running mortars or simply just needs more ammo, the truck can run a full load of ammo rather than wasting half of that space to haul unneeded construction materials. Unsecured oversized loads will be issued a moving citation.
The process of loading and unloading is now treated like a weapon on a vehicle, in that Construction and Ammo occupy different inventory slots, and one button (Default: Left Mouse Button) will unload, and another (Default: Right Mouse Button) will load supplies onto the vehicle.
Round Start Staging Timer
Instead of a 3-minute pre-match spawn timer, there will be a 3-minute staging period before matches. During this time, you can spawn in at your team's Main Base, organize your squads, roles, get to your vehicles, and prepare to move out. However, you are unable to leave the Main Base area until the timer has fully elapsed. To prevent griefing issues, you cannot fire your weapons during the staging period.
We're supremely grateful for the community we have and we absolutely do not want to disappoint, despite taking us this long to get our next major release together. Please stay tuned for further updates as our team is on overdrive in hammering out the bugs.
Offworld Out.
Join the Discussion >>
Really looking forward to these changes. Quite a debate kicking off on the official forums about the changes to the rush meta...personally I think it will add to the game, but seems a few competitive players aren't happy. Squad has some brilliant maps, always nice to be able to fight over them for a couple of hours rather than just around the main bases.
We knew it would rustle a few feathers! If people still want to rush they can but this time instead of just turtling and blocking the flag they will have to actively seek out and kill the team that are trying to cap the flag.
Indeed. Seems a bit ironic, competitive players whining about making the game easier for casual players - piling into the first cap and just overwhelming it to prevent a cap is hardly the epitome of skilled or challenging play, more like how fast a driver you have.
There's a great read over on the official forums in a thread called "Will v10 kill Squad?", written by a "competitive player would you believe. Like I said before, you can still rush to their first flag and try and stop them capping but you will need to kill them outright instead of just outnumbering them. Will be interesting to see how it all works out. In PR there was never rushing like there is now and that played out beautifully.
that's the very thread in referring to and I've contributed to... I'm DaiaBu on the official forums, as that's my in game name.
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Alpha 10 Public Test
21-Dec-2017
Hey Squaddies,
We've made the feature list, we're checking it twice, and we're definitely going to find out who's been naughty or nice, the Alpha 10 test run is coming to town! For about 24 hours starting on December 21, 6 PM UTC/10:00 AM PST, we'll be releasing a public test version of Squad Alpha 10 for everyone -- yes, you in the back, you can download and play, all you need is Squad.
PLEASE NOTE: This is a work in progress! Alpha 10 is still undergoing active development and does not have a scheduled release date. It will be more than three weeks; consider yourself warned! The contents of this public test are subject to change and may not be representative of the final release.
In other words, it's not done yet, but we want your feedback! And your bug reports. Expect bugs, quirks, server performance, and extra steps to be required. (See below!)
Get the Public Test
If you have Steam installed, you're already most of the way there.
- Right-click on Squad in your Library.
- Click "Properties".
- Navigate to the BETAS tab.
- In the box that says, "Enter beta access code to unlock private beta:" enter the following code: squadparkourdlc
- Click "Check Code".
- In the drop-down box above the code, select the "public-testing" branch.
- Click close, and your download should begin.
Public Test Patch Notes
Before you go playing with all your shiny new toys, let's check the card and see what's in the box:
- Transition time from sprinting to aiming down sights has been increased.
- Transition from standing to prone is no longer instant. (So long, prone diving!)
- Crouch sprinting added.
- Additional MOCAP data for climbing and vaulting has been integrated.
- Vaulting now allows movement over small walls. (Parkour!)
- Climbing now allows movement over some walls. (Parkour?)
- Freelook has been added.
- Weapon sway effects have been adjusted.
- Weapon collision has been added. Be careful in tight spaces!
- Scoped weapons have reduced peripheral vision. Reticles have been updated.
- Ironsight zoom increased when aiming down sights.
- Infantry weapons now have adjustable sights. This obviously does not apply to weapons with fixed sights.
- New role: Machine gunner has been added to Squad with new primary weapons. (PKM and m240b)
- Deployable bipods available for MGs.
- Adjustments to address flag capture blocking.
- Switching vehicles seats now has a delay that varies by vehicle.
- Several vehicles now have secondary ammunition types, such as the 30mm HE rounds for the Russian BTR-82A.
- Several vehicles now have coaxial machine guns.
- Logistics trucks will now be able to load and unload 2000 total points worth of space which can be allocated for construction or ammunition. By default, Left Mouse Button will unload and Right Mouse Button will load. See the November Recap for more information.
- 3-minute pre-match staging period has been added to help teams coordinate.
- Maps: Belaya has been added with a work-in-progress weather effect.
- Main menu UI has received first pass with new assets.
Known Issues
- Cached game data must be cleared so key bindings will work.
- Not losing stamina while crouch sprinting.
- Bipod deployed UI.
- Extra weapon model after revive. Go prone and move to fix.
- Unable to vault or climb. Go prone and move to fix.
- Stuck hand model. Go prone and move to fix.
- Uncontrolled sway, regardless of sprinting or stamina. Switch kits to fix.
Watching the Public Test
Away from your PC this time of year? You're not alone, but fortunately for you (and the rest of us), some of our partner streamers will be broadcasting the action. Be sure to check in on their streams throughout the day to get your fix:
- HAYNICK31 plans to see how the hottest competition in Squad is adjusting to the changes.
- JohnnyOmaha has threatened to go a whole 24 hours if we let him have ALL the energy drinks.
- Karmakut will stream from release until 6:00 PM PST.
- running_Duck will be live as soon as the download finishes.
- Squad Ops takes the field at 6 PM PST to show us how Squad is done.
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Holy crap happy xmas!
Cant wait to try the vaulting, bipods HMG omg all the goodies! Shame its only 24 hours tho, wont have much time to test it out
Cant wait to try the vaulting, bipods HMG omg all the goodies! Shame its only 24 hours tho, wont have much time to test it out
Soldato
Hype Hype
Holy crap happy xmas!
Cant wait to try the vaulting, bipods HMG omg all the goodies! Shame its only 24 hours tho, wont have much time to test it out
It's currently being extended until Saturday
