Well he was garbage all last season, do you take a punt on the fact he will regain his form straight away? cause he is going to have to hit the ground running.
PS I for got about fletcher, so we have one fit midfielder who is actually fit for purpose.
I will be the first one to say that Carrick by and large was toilet last season. Nowhere in this thread or any other thread last season will you see me defending him. He has lost his edge and drive and you can see that Fergie does not fancy him
atpbx said:
Anderson wont make the start of the season.
Hargreaves out for the start of the season.
Carrick is he going to be ok? his own manager says he takes a while to warm up and doesnt hit form till a few games in, he didnt hit form at all last year.
Gibson, what does he do? he can kick a ball very hard, thats it.
Scholes, another year older, a player who was all but retired at the end of last season and has has to be coaxed to stay on.
Can the team afford to start with no legs and no real creativity and power in midfield AGAIN?
Again your getting your knickers in a twist about nothing. Look through my posts and again I will be one of the first ones to say that we need something to make it happen in the final 3rd of the field. Gibson is not world class by any stretch of the imagination but he brings a certain amount of running to the team and will get better with age. Or do you seriously think that training with the likes of Giggs and Scholes wont have a positive influence on his game.
Nobody is saying we don't need to get better than last year, far from it
atpbx said:
Is fergie going to rely on nothing more than kicking the ball in waynes general direction all year and hoping he can do something with it?
Looks very much like it.
Well if you want to generalise like that then I really do hope he does get the ball into the general direction of Rooney who one would hope is generally playing upfield so he has a greater general chance of scoring. Instead talking sensationalist BS take some time to study football and understand the game
atpbx said:
My crystal ball was mostly accurate last year, I said at the start of the season we were short in defence, goal, midfield and up front, and all last season they were.
I said Foster would be binned, and he was.
I said Berbatov would be hopeless and he has been.
Mate seriously don't be breaking your own arm patting yourself on the back with the Deryck Acorah BS. We can all make generalisation to make us sound like experts but get to some specifics and people may take some of what you say with a some credibility rather than a rather large pinch of salt. Week in week out, Berbas this, Fosters, Giggs is the other. The team need 4 new defenders, 4 new midfielders and 2 new forwards. Last season we were 2nd highest scorers and the best defence. The problem was the spread of goals. Your argument statistically and consistently fails.
atpbx said:
You seem to be one of these people who think that because someone has kicked a ball for a living suddenly becomes untouchable and its unthinkable that someone outside of "the game" can possibly have a valid opinion.
Another aptbx generalisation if I ever saw one. If a player is pulling on the shirt and not giving 100% then yes he deserves some stick. Maybe it's me maybe its how I was brought up i dunno. I was a match going red home and away for many a year. Win or loose support the boys as long as they gave 100%. That was from being a young lad watching some of the crap served up by Atkinson to being privileged week in week out home and away watching players like Hughes, Robson, Cantona, Giggs, Keane and many great players who SAF has made better over the years.
I have also been fortunate enough to be in the company of a lot of great and not so great footballers who have moved into coaching like Stuart Pearce, Andy Cole, Steve Wiggley and many other to see the game from a coaches perspective
I just don't buy into this modern phenomenon of booing players and constantly getting on their back. In all honesty mate, Fans like you and Nickg really boil my **** because they really don't know how good you have had it. You listen to them clowns at Villa Park booing week in week out because they start the season well but fizzle out, Its like they think they have a devine right to win. Which is why your attitude rubs up so many Man Utd fans the wrong way. Probably why so many fans up and down the country hate Utd as well, we have no devine right to sign a player, no divine right to win anything despite what you think.
All the bloody time, all we hear is how lucky we are to win this, win that, how when we last won the prem and were runners up in the champions league we were so lucky to do it.
I am probably doing you a dis-service here because we have been terribly lucky over the last 20 or so years. So many trophies, so many good games and so many great players. Lets be fair, there are probably 90-91 other clubs who would love just one of them seasons to have on their honours list. So yes we have been lucky to see it, and lucky to be part of it.
