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robj20 said:
Look at the 1602P if you need higher speeds.
I'd be more interested if it used unifi cameras G4 Pro for instance.
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Aye I just found it, cheers. At that price I know full well I'd never be allowed to buy it :p.

Is there any point moving to a non-multigig router/switch if moving to a 1Gb connection and a 2.5gb+ network though? I've got 5 (at current count, will soon be 7) poe devices it could power, and then I suppose I can link it to a multigig switch via an sfp but thats driving prices up.
 
I don’t know for sure but I highly doubt you can use unifi cameras with it. You need their protect software which is only available on their recorder products, E.g. UDM, CKG2+ or the dedicated recorders.

Their cameras are very expensive for what they are, if you don’t already own them, else where will likely give better options for less money.
 
I was under the impression that Unifi cameras did RTSP in which case yes, you can use them with QNAP's surveillance software.
 
In that case it's just a case of setting the cameras up to send RTSP and telling the surveillance software where the cameras are and off you go.
 
platypus said:
Aye I just found it, cheers. At that price I know full well I'd never be allowed to buy it :p.

Is there any point moving to a non-multigig router/switch if moving to a 1Gb connection and a 2.5gb+ network though? I've got 5 (at current count, will soon be 7) poe devices it could power, and then I suppose I can link it to a multigig switch via an sfp but thats driving prices up.
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From memory, the QGD-1600P is a Celeron CPU and the QGD-1602P is an Atom and that's why we tend to still use the QGD-1600P over the QGD-1602P - the extra horsepower in the Celeron is useful for a couple of VMs. Otherwise the 1602P is a better device but you can put a 4-port multi-gig card on the PCIe slot.
 
So the 1602P is actually slower, sure it said it could handle much higher bandwidth. Sure we only have 1G internet now but I want something that can do at least 1G comfortably and possibly higher.
 
robj20 said:
So the 1602P is actually slower, sure it said it could handle much higher bandwidth. Sure we only have 1G internet now but I want something that can do at least 1G comfortably and possibly higher.
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It can handle higher bandwidth, the question is how many VMs you want to run. If you're happy just to run Unifi when you need it in a single VM then it will be fine. Add on pfSense and it will slow down a little bit. Stream 8 cameras and it will slow down some more. Add on the eSATA expansion module and use it for backups and the QGD-1600P will still be chugging along where the QGD-1602P will be running out of puff.
 
chroniclard said:
Despite some high prices all the kit mentioned seems flawed, mostly around CPU grunt.
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Tough crowd!

For your money you get a Celeron PC in a 1U case with a 16 port high power PoE switch and a basic 2-drive NAS (4-drive with the 1602P). We buy the 8Gb QGD-1600P for £550+VAT. It's £663 online at the moment incl. VAT from an OcUK competitor. Compare the package to a UDM-Pro SE at £360+VAT with it's ARM CPU, 4Gb RAM, 8 port x 100Mb basic PoE switching and I'd say it looks good value - especially considering it won't fall over like the UBNT product almost certainly will.

All I can really say is we use these a lot for high-end home deployments and they have no issue doing 1Gbps symmetrical connections. I've not tested it beyond that but that was with Untangle running in a VM with EVERYTHING (IPS, E-mail Anti-Virus, Web filter, DNS cache, Child-protection) switched on, and running WireGuard VPN. And it had the NVR running, plus Mikrotik Router OS7.02. So it's certainly not a slow PC.
 
WJA96 said:
From memory, the QGD-1600P is a Celeron CPU and the QGD-1602P is an Atom and that's why we tend to still use the QGD-1600P over the QGD-1602P - the extra horsepower in the Celeron is useful for a couple of VMs. Otherwise the 1602P is a better device but you can put a 4-port multi-gig card on the PCIe slot.
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Ah I had entirely forgotten about the PCIe slots. That brings multigig capacity then, nice!
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
I don’t know for sure but I highly doubt you can use unifi cameras with it. You need their protect software which is only available on their recorder products, E.g. UDM, CKG2+ or the dedicated recorders.

Their cameras are very expensive for what they are, if you don’t already own them, else where will likely give better options for less money.
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I've already got a bunch, so just wanted to avoid having to replace those, and any new cameras I get I can move to cheaper 4K ones.
 
WJA96 said:
Tough crowd!

For your money you get a Celeron PC in a 1U case with a 16 port high power PoE switch and a basic 2-drive NAS (4-drive with the 1602P). We buy the 8Gb QGD-1600P for £550+VAT. It's £663 online at the moment incl. VAT from an OcUK competitor. Compare the package to a UDM-Pro SE at £360+VAT with it's ARM CPU, 4Gb RAM, 8 port x 100Mb basic PoE switching and I'd say it looks good value - especially considering it won't fall over like the UBNT product almost certainly will.

All I can really say is we use these a lot for high-end home deployments and they have no issue doing 1Gbps symmetrical connections. I've not tested it beyond that but that was with Untangle running in a VM with EVERYTHING (IPS, E-mail Anti-Virus, Web filter, DNS cache, Child-protection) switched on, and running WireGuard VPN. And it had the NVR running, plus Mikrotik Router OS7.02. So it's certainly not a slow PC.
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:D fine! sold......(next year...)
 
Have been reading through this thread thinking of upgrading to 2.5G but there doesn't seem to be much available from Ubiquiti and what is seems quite expensive

My knowledge is quite basic so can anyeone advise on upgrading please.

I usually have around 10 - 15 wifi devices and 7 wired, I edit 1080p (the odd 4K) video over Lan which is ok but can struggle at times when files are 100GB+.

Current devices
USG -3P
US-8-60W
UAP-AC-Pro x2 (POE)
TL-SG1008P V4 (upstairs)
Cloudkey (Gen1)

VM connection is currently 350Mbps but will be 1Gbe once current contract expires.

cheers
 
Imo there's not really much point buying 2.5GbE equipment when 10GbE isn't that much more and will provide you with 4x the throughput.
If you're going to do it, you may as well do it once, and do it right
 
WJA96 said:
From memory, the QGD-1600P is a Celeron CPU and the QGD-1602P is an Atom and that's why we tend to still use the QGD-1600P over the QGD-1602P - the extra horsepower in the Celeron is useful for a couple of VMs. Otherwise the 1602P is a better device but you can put a 4-port multi-gig card on the PCIe slot.
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Actually revisiting this - what network card are you putting in the pcie slot? These seem expensive and actually push the overall price up to the cost of the one with multi-gig built in, as far as I can tell. So a similar price but you're just getting better hardware (if you buy the 1600P?)?
 
platypus said:
Actually revisiting this - what network card are you putting in the pcie slot? These seem expensive and actually push the overall price up to the cost of the one with multi-gig built in, as far as I can tell. So a similar price but you're just getting better hardware (if you buy the 1600P?)?
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We normally use QNAP or Intel cards depending on the customer's budget. And yes, a 4-port 10GBaseT card is the same price as the NAS.
 
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