***Official Wrath of the Lich King Thread***(Contains spoilers)***
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just what i thought, SSC anyone?
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I'm always giggling at that anal stuff no matter what people think. I remember the good old Warglaive of Azzinoth spam.... one time I logged on to see 30 people spam that every second
Not yet.
The screenshots on MMO look awesome, this is looking like the best expansion yet IMO.
Can't wait to try it out. For now I'm working on achievements
I miss the days of 5 man heroics that actually lived up to their name.
These days you just charge in and AoE everything. In my ICC geared prot warrior I can pull half the instance and just spam cleave/TC. It starts off pretty fun (wow! I'm tanking 30 mobs!) but quickly gets boring because there's no challenge.
Hell, even HoR heroic which is the most difficult 5 man in the game right now can quite easily be faceroll tanked.
I remember wiping in shattered halls because some lock dotted the sheep, or endless attempts on pre-nerf Nethermancer Sepethrea because of those flipping elementals.
Hopefully Cataclysm heroics will actually be heroic.
Necrosis is worth a look as well as forteXorcist.
Other than that your best bet is to just download a UI pack. There's so many addons for so many jobs that you can't really describe any as the 'best'. Playing with a UI pack will introduce you to some really good addons and some you'll know to avoid.
These days you just charge in and AoE everything. In my ICC geared prot warrior I can pull half the instance and just spam cleave/TC. It starts off pretty fun (wow! I'm tanking 30 mobs!) but quickly gets boring because there's no challenge.
Hell, even HoR heroic which is the most difficult 5 man in the game right now can quite easily be faceroll tanked.
I remember wiping in shattered halls because some lock dotted the sheep, or endless attempts on pre-nerf Nethermancer Sepethrea because of those flipping elementals.
Hopefully Cataclysm heroics will actually be heroic.
Necrosis is worth a look as well as forteXorcist.
Other than that your best bet is to just download a UI pack. There's so many addons for so many jobs that you can't really describe any as the 'best'. Playing with a UI pack will introduce you to some really good addons and some you'll know to avoid.
HC's will never be tough. Blizz want to take away some of that from the game. The only challenge is HC raids now.
Talking of HC raids; i stuck it after our LK kill and we have now cleared 4 25m HC's. Admittedly the easy ones but so far have been very unimpressed. I did 10m Saur HC on Friday and was left feeling that was a real challenge esp if you are in just 10m gear. A real dps and healing check and a great feeling after the kill. I'm looking forward to hopefully some challenge in the 25m HCs. My guild though is a complete mess. They expect to kill everything instantly, they can't handle challenges and as soon as a challenge comes along they start screaming and yelling at each other. I quite like some of them but i have a feeling i will be making my way to a more 'stable' group of people pre Cata
Talking of HC raids; i stuck it after our LK kill and we have now cleared 4 25m HC's. Admittedly the easy ones but so far have been very unimpressed. I did 10m Saur HC on Friday and was left feeling that was a real challenge esp if you are in just 10m gear. A real dps and healing check and a great feeling after the kill. I'm looking forward to hopefully some challenge in the 25m HCs. My guild though is a complete mess. They expect to kill everything instantly, they can't handle challenges and as soon as a challenge comes along they start screaming and yelling at each other. I quite like some of them but i have a feeling i will be making my way to a more 'stable' group of people pre Cata
HCs are easy now.... that is because (normally) most of the group is in ICC gear (or there about). Hopefully when cata comes out HCs will be "reset" so every one needs new gear from HCs which will be more challenging.
On a side note... changing the way HCs run would make a difference.... dont just have tank n spank bosses... make people dps and run around avoiding various effects etc...
Also created a horde character on Kazzak if any one is on there and can recommend a good guild ?
On a side note... changing the way HCs run would make a difference.... dont just have tank n spank bosses... make people dps and run around avoiding various effects etc...
Also created a horde character on Kazzak if any one is on there and can recommend a good guild ?
Your Sepethrea comment made me smile and think back at how much of a pain she was. We'd al have great gear (hard earned, not given it) and she'd still make a mockery of us. Can still see our guild leader say 'FFS guy's, SHE'S NOT WORTH IT!!!!' when we inevitably wipe on her. When we did kill her 3/10 we actually cheered, and this was a normal heroic
In Hellfire Ramps and Shattered Halls they hit like meteors and it was only towards the end of the expansion we facerolled them. People still flasked for SH 70% into TBC. Funny thing is, we still enjoyed going there as much as we did on the beginning of the expansion. We visited every instance religiously and loved going there all the same. I played a Protection Paladin which gave rise to AOE tanking, but I still had to have a quick think on every pull. In Lich King I grudgingly went heroic-ing for the gear. I didn't care about any instances.
I remember fondly things such as the rogues in Shattered Halls that may or may not have been there, and would gank your healer, the run up to Watchguard Porung with the waves of enemies, Arcatraz which took about an hour completing and the severe possibility of wiping in the first room and Delrissa in Magister's Terrace which was such a pain that we rarely bothered during the release to go past her or carefully hatched a plan for 20min which all went pear-shaped the first 15 seconds.
good times my friends, good times.
Yes many hc's we're tough at the start of wotlk. I think I didn't kill Loken in HoL until about the 10th time I ran it. I also remember the crabs in heroic Slave Pens back at the start of tbc killing our tank in 3 seconds.
I'm looking forward to them in cata and I hope they up their difficulty in general based on gear or whatever, because they're so boring right now and it'd be nice to have some challenge outside of icc.
I'm looking forward to them in cata and I hope they up their difficulty in general based on gear or whatever, because they're so boring right now and it'd be nice to have some challenge outside of icc.
I can honestly say, we smashed through every Lich King heroic without even reading up on the encounter as it was so easy that we just out geared or nullified whatever the bosses did. Many times we had to make sure that it was actually set to heroic as it was hard to tell the difference between that and normal.
Slave Pens is easily my most run heroic in the history of the game. I must've been in that place over 200 times and still loved it to the very last day.
How many guilds killed C'Thun? How many guilds killed Kil'jaeden?
Scratch that, how many guilds even reached C'Thun or even gone past Brutallis in Sunwell? There was no easy modes or hardmodes on them, they were HARD and rightly only the most dedicated and skilled of guilds could get to them.
Don't get me wrong, I suppose it's a good thing that every mom and pop guild can now killed Lich King on 10man normal, but it doesn't 'feel' right. Let heroics have hardmodes, let the raids be what they are. My favourite 3 raids ever include Ulduar which is a Lich King raid. Blizzard still has the chops to create good stuff, I just wish this 10man 25man would gtfo.
Do we still have a cataclysm thread kicking about somewhere? I can't seem to find it.
There's a shedload of screenshots from the cataclysm alpha up on mmo-champion. Some of the re-done zones look really nice, particularly Orgrimmar.
There's a shedload of screenshots from the cataclysm alpha up on mmo-champion. Some of the re-done zones look really nice, particularly Orgrimmar.
Hmmm? WOTLK heroics was and still are pathetically easy people was clearing every dungeon on heroic in less then 3 hours with level 70 gear at the start of WOTLK
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And as I remember it, it was only SWP gear that lasted all the way up until 80. So yeah, they might of been able to clear a few of the easier HC's upon dinging, but that is about 1% of the WoW population, so its a pretty stupid argument to say the game should be balanced for them. Even then, I can garuntee they wiped a few times.
HC's should be a lot harder, don't get me wrong - You just do a valid point no justice talking like a moron.
what? Either you mean they cleared all hc's in 3 hours in lvl 70 gear. No.
or you mean they took 3 hours per hc. Either way no.
Hey colin,
Are you allowed to chat to players in game when you are at work? I had the image of something along the line's of...
*GM appears on screen*
"GM-colin" Hey Bulrug (my char name)
"Bulrug" Hey!
"GM-colin" ow crap I'm on the wrong char brb
Yep very silly but it would freak others out around me
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So, blizzard has hit the "we don't want any info of cata released" bat on mmo-champ and other sites.
Meh.
Meh.