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Oh it delay again from ATi???

lol I bought a 8800 GTX then a few weeks later sold it, because I wanted the cash back I paid for it, in anticipation of the release of the ATI card, I would say I've always been somewhat of an ATI card buyer for a long time for a few reasons, the graphics IQ was always better & less driver bugs in games - thats just my opinion I'm sure others will differ.

Kinda ****** off hearing this news, I'll blame AMD you would have thought with their investment in actually taking over ATI they would have actually advanced somewhat in terms of their ability to bring out high end products to give good competition against Nvidia.

I really do wish Intel had bought out ATI, Crossfire is supported with the current Intel Chipsets, but I have a sneaky feeling that this will change due to the fact Intels rival owns ATI. Could this mean we will see Nvidia Sli support in the next generation of Intel Chipsets?

What I would like to see now from the Giant Intel is for them to really put some investment into their own graphics cards, they have always done onboard graphics in the past - this would be great for competition against the likes of Nvidia & AMD/ATI.

From what I have wrote in the last few paragraphs the worse thing that could have happend has happend & thats a company like AMD taking over one of the only major high end performance graphics card makers.
 
Intel won't stop supporting Crossfire on their chipsets, they make far too much profit out of chipsets to do that.

Rumour is that Intel are working on their own graphics cards, but so far it's just rumour. Would be nice though.
 
NVidias latest IQ on the 8800series has been tested to be superior to the current ATi one, so that is one argument you cannot use when comparing any current ATi card to an 8800series! :)

NVidia's 7*** series cards on the other hand had terrible IQ, down right awful and the ATi was a massive jump compared.

Basically it goes like this 7***seriesNV < 18xx, 19xxseriesATi < 8800series NVIDIA!

It now comes out on top and I suspect the ATi IQ will = it once the r600 is finally released!
 
Ulfhedjinn said:
Intel won't stop supporting Crossfire on their chipsets, they make far too much profit out of chipsets to do that.

Rumour is that Intel are working on their own graphics cards, but so far it's just rumour. Would be nice though.
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no thats a terrible idea, not only would we have intel monopolising the CPU, motherboard market but the GPU market as well, no thank you sir
 
Gashman said:
no thats a terrible idea, not only would we have intel monopolising the CPU, motherboard market but the GPU market as well, no thank you sir
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How would it be a monopoly? Please, explain.

I'd advise you to look the word up first though. ;)
 
Oh boy.... tbh I would prefer to upgrade Summer time its such a nasty time to upgrade now with all the Vista issues and lack of AM2+ socket/AMD quad cores and still no Intel Quadcore 50% price drops....

Summer time sounds good for a new gaming system ;)

And then come next month 8900GTX arrives and still upgrade....
 
it would only be a monopoly is intel were the only providers. if they simply dominate the market because others cant make a good enough product then thats jst fine. with the success intel has with the C2D and the facilities for manufacture that they have it makes sence that they want to get into GPU manufacture. im only suprised it has taken them this long to get involved.

ATI cant hold the launch back for too long simply because if it gets to september time the next lot of nvidia chps is going to be poised to take over again. ATI cant afford to be 12 months behind in the race. and only if the R600 is REALLY that good can they compete by delaying too long. if its a 9xxx beater or even something that can compete with it then they will be ok, but only nvidia know what they are going to do with the 9xxx series.
 
Call me an optimist, but maybe they are just refining the design to make sure it beats/competes with the 8900 series when it is released? After all, there's no point releasing an 8800-beater if it's only going to be very short-lived...
 
you have to ask though what can they do to the r600 in the next 2 months that they havnt done in the last 18? the chip has already been designed and tested.
 
if there is a delay

my guess would be major instability problems with the hardware that was only recently discovered

i cant see them adding more delays just so they can eekk out a few frames per second in benchmarks over nvidia

the only + for ATi is that there are no games out for months that require the latest and greatest graphics card to run and dx 10 games are still 6 months away
 
Im calling BS, mainly because the inquirer is the only source, and they are well pathetic to say the least. If I was an admin for a day the first thing I would do it block all links to that poor excuse for a website.
 
Ulfhedjinn said:
Aye this is why the 7950GX2, to me, was always a bad card. The fact it's SLI makes it unreliable compared to a single card solution (i.e. 8800) and that's seriously compounded in Vista with Nvidia's current crappy drivers.

Crossfire is just the same.
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Wrong - Crossfire works for 99% of games without any modifications, where as SLI will only work for those games that have been specifically written to use SLI. So Crossfire as a technology works far better than SLI.

Ulfhedjinn said:
Crossfire anything is not worth considering right now. Crossfired X1950Pros come out at £220 and can still be thrashed easily by a £199 8800GTS, Crossfired X1950XT/-Xs cost a shedload more and you can get 8800GTX for ~£350 or something now which makes that pointless too.
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Yes, given the price/performance of the cards, an 8800 card is the way to go.
 
darkblade said:
Wrong - Crossfire works for 99% of games without any modifications, where as SLI will only work for those games that have been specifically written to use SLI. So Crossfire as a technology works far better than SLI.
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Crossfire users say otherwise, just ask Tom|Nbk he hates Crossfire now.
 
skirkham said:
the only + for ATi is that there are no games out for months that require the latest and greatest graphics card to run and dx 10 games are still 6 months away
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Fully agree with this, by the time theres even a few decent Dx10 titles out there the R600 is gona be ancient, G80's are already ancient as those are coming up to 5 months old already, and what Dx10 games have they had, nowt, still running the same old guff, Oblivion/CoD2/fear etc... even the old x1k/7 series can handle those games without breaking a sweat, 8900's are coming now as well, and they still gona be running the same old guff, no Dx10 games for them either, but lets face it no one has been buying the G80 for Dx10, i don't think anyone is going to buy the 89's/R600's for Dx10 either, no point if theres no games for em, everyone will just be buying them for their awesome Dx9 performance (like i got the GTS for), and then when the Dx10 games start to appear will upgrade to the cards that are around then for them, and they wont be G80's/8900's/R600's as they'll have been passed by load of new/faster/better cards, they'll be long gone, as i said G80's about long gone now being its coming up to 5 months old already, helluva long time in the graphics world that, and its had zero Dx10 games to show it off, and the G80's already getting surpassed by the next card 8900, i can't see why anyone would want to buy the slowest Dx10 card out even before Dx10 has hit and they can use it. :)

We all upgrade for better performance, so in effect if your buying the G80's for Dx10 then your downgrading already, as the G80's are the slowest Dx10 cards you can get, and whats funny is, thats even before Dx10 is here.:D

Its like everyone banging on about these upcoming games using Dx10 saying the 320mb GTS wont run em etc... due to only having 320mb, who cares, i bought mine for its Dx9 performance, i bought it for the now, not for games months away, even your 640mb GTS's, and your GTX's are gona be old and passed by by then, even the 8900's/R600's are gona have been passed.
 
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8900 will probably be out before it now, that'll be ATi 2x cards behind then. :eek:

Whats also funny about the above ppl saying and getting the 640mb GTS's, and the GTX's instead of the 320mb GTS's as it wont handle the upcoming games is, they'll be getting shot of their GTX's/640mb GTS's for the 8900's anyway. :D :D
 
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darkblade said:
Wrong - Crossfire works for 99% of games without any modifications, where as SLI will only work for those games that have been specifically written to use SLI. So Crossfire as a technology works far better than SLI.
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You can set AFR, SFR etc manually if there's no profile for the specific game and run that as the default or make your own profile...also there's no master/slave/dongle business to deal with, personally I've had no problem with SLI.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
8900 will probably be out before it now, that'll be ATi 2x cards behind then. :eek:

Whats also funny about the above ppl saying and getting the 640mb GTS's, and the GTX's instead of the 320mb GTS's as it wont handle the upcoming games is, they'll be getting shot of their GTX's/640mb GTS's for the 8900's anyway. :D :D
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when are the 8900 seires due?
 
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