OLED .....not yet guys !

even more confused :confused::confused:

i've just read that upscaled HD 1080P content on a 65'' 4K TV is not as good as on a standard 65'' 1080P TV.........basically 1080p scaled up can look blurry.

i'm now totally confused, i just dont know what to do now, i was ok this morning, but it looks like i'm after a 1080p tv only
 
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http://www.hispek.com/entertainment...-smart-3d-led-android-television-pd-21014.php

yes i just saw it before your last post on AV Forums, that poor guy is as confused as me.......but the sony is perfect.

it has to be razor sharp 1080p at 65''......4K is not so good for regular HD tv because it blurs the image as it upscales it.............4K does not have 1080p as an alternative setting, it is fixed at 4K only, i've been wanting to know this for weeks........... i think :eek:

i'm sorry if i've annoyed anyone, but this is not explained well enough and i asked about this in the shop.

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majnu said:
+1

I was going to get the ZT last year before they sold out but the user feedback on AVF put me of. Then I was going to get the OLED LG's and then again user feedback put me of, plus I didn't like that curved nonsense.

At this rate if I continue to read AVF I'll never upgrade from my aging Sony KDS SXRD. :p
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what......:eek: that's what i had :D:D:D

KDS 55A 2000 .............great tv except for the Green Blob issue
 
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good then a 75'' screen should be ok, it's image sharpness i'm worried about, I now need to find out how good this Sony tv is, but it's brand new so there's probably no reviews, but maybe there's an earlier version
 
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the previous version gets a great review, but it's smart features are poor and it isn't good at 3D...... but it has a great image quality......esp at night

this is very important:- ``When in game mode, the Sony W800B has the lowest input lag that we currently have measured so far. This is really one of the best gaming TVs we have ever tested...............0.24ms that's brilliant``

but that's last years model so this years should be better..... it's also FLAT :cool:

the 75'' version will be massive but not a bad price, the BS is all about 4K nowadays, so this tv gets little coverage but it doesn't mean it isn't really good.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd...l75w855c-smart-3d-75-led-tv-10122346-pdt.html
 
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woppy101 said:
You really come across as a 15 year old child bouncing from TV to TV Saying each one is the best you have seen, BTW 75" from 9 feet away is way too big and far too close, you may be able to see the pixel structure at that distance( screen door effect) you are not going to get a perfect TV choose on and be happy with it, in my opinion the OLED is the closest and the pros far out weigh the cons.
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dont you read what others say, you only notice the pixels at extremely close range, 3ft away......... i bounce from tv to tv because there's a lot of research to do, because if you had done your research correctly you might not have brought an OLED. (fair comment because you attacked me first)

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

there's the calculator, the ideal size at 9 to 10ft is about 90''..... it only looks odd because we're not used to such massive TVs in our home
 
viewing distance at 55'' is between 6 and 7.5 feet to achieve the recommended viewing angle of about 36 degrees, my tv looks far better if i move 2ft closer
 
woppy101 said:
believe me I have done my research hence the reason I own an OLED, buy the 75" and hope to god you don't see the banding, motion blur,light pooling, off angle colour washout, DSE, shocking blacks anytime after 7pm, should I go on?
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the only LEDs that look totally wrong are the 4K versions that play upscaled 1080p (very poor upscaling, this looked like normal SD content).

yes it'll have poor viewing angles, but the backs remain to be seen, so i'm not sure about that..... motion and everything else should be fine..the LED isn't nearly as bad as it was 2 years ago, it really is a far better tv than back then.





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woppy101 said:
@36degrees off center your going to see huge colour wash out on anything other than an IPS panel( but they have other problems in themselve)
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it's not 36 degrees off centre, because that's for a 90'' screen, plus you're in the middle of the screen so it's 18 degrees each side, i've had a LCD Rear Projector before it only looks bad from the side, but i never watch tv from the side anyway so it doesn't bother me.

the lack of ``near black representation`` bothers me, but not nearly as much as watching HD TV on 4K, which is what you'll be doing for the next 5 years

so my next research has to be......... what are its black like at night, or are they still as bad as two years ago
 
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For some VA panels you can be as little as 10degrees off center for it to wash out, I don't know what you are on about with the 4k comment I won't be buying a 4k OLED until sky start mainstream transmition of 4k which is a long way off yet
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the Sony Bravia LED gets great reviews, its faults are poor Smart, slow menu and rubbish 3D, but this is of little importance at all, unfortunately it reduces it review mark to 8 out of 10

the blacks look acceptable at night, (and better if you reduce its daytime settings) but they are deffo not as good as my Plasma.
 
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for sale :- Panasonic 65'' ST 50..............same as my 55'' tv but 65'' and if it's in good condition it'll be perfect for me and only 600 quid, it'll deffo be better than the Sony LED.

i read quite a lot on AV Forums about the LED and it still has quite a few faults at night, backlight bleeding, uniformity issues and only average blacks, the ST55 is virtually perfect at night, it's exactly the right time for looking at a Plasma..

the ideal solution is to use a 26'' monitor for the web and the plasma for tv and gaming only........this will reduce the IR by at least 80%.............this ST 65'' needs a look at unfortunately it's too heavy, it's nearly twice the weight of mine and i wont be able to lift it on my own, let alone carry it into my house
 
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there's OLEDs on Ebay that have been there for weeks, 1.6 thousand quid and they're not selling at all, why aren't they selling :eek::eek::eek:

to me a £1600 OLED must only be worth about £1300, it's very odd
 
i too would rather wait for the FLAT OLED at Xmas...............but surely any Videofile Geek will be looking on E-Bay all the time, just in case.

a curved 55'' OLED at £1300 is pretty cheap, the problem is i already have a 55'' screen
 
S2KIP said:
Second hand or new?

90% of consumers have no idea what OLED is and will want 4K LED as it's the marketing rubbish that's rammed down their throats.

OLED's, Kuro's, VT65's etc will sell much easier on enthusiast forums.

I've had my LG OLED for 4 months now I think, still looks as good as the day I got it.
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there's a Panny ZT60 that failed to sell on Ebay...twice he re-entered it, it didn't sell both times, he wanted £2200 for it, that really put me off.
 
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