'On yer bike' says Boris...

robj20 said:
If it were up to me NHS contributions would be based on an individual's lifestyle.
Walk less than an average number of steps a day that's an extra £10 a month, smoke that's another £20 a month.

It worked for me years ago me and a friend wanted to join a gym which was for illustration purposes £50 a month.
He found a life insurance company that have free membership to the same gym as long as you visited at least 3 times a week average. That was about £20 a month for the insurance, if you didn't visit the gym the insurance doubled.

Basically I think the more unhealthy a lifestyle you live the more you should contribute to NHS funding.
Also it should definitely not be considered okay to be fat, the same as we don't think it's okay to have diabetes or to smoke.
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Am sure smokers pay a hell lot more then £20 per month due to how much duty there is on cigarettes

a pack of 20 cigarettes with an RRp of £8 will be over 80% tax, while on some of the lowest price cigarettes tax can account for 90%4.
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I look ok ,feel im doing the right things but bodyfat scales telling me amber visceral ,i walked across spain last year over 30 days and nothing altered ,alcohol may be my downfall ,dont know.
anyway the voucher thing will be ok for a couple of puncture resistant tyres on hybrid ,the camel trail is down the road haven't cycled to the beach in a long while
 
Alcohol is my downfall at the moment, normally tea total all week, since March finding myself drinking throughout the week as not driving anywhere and have far more evening time which I am not used to - also not having to get up a 5am.

There are nights where I have no alcohol and others will have a beer or three - Definitely noticed the weight creeping up. I know when I stop the weight will drop, but still, it's an eye opener.

Love walking and frequently make sure I walk a distance each day to try and keep the sloth like existence that WFH entails at bay, still, now thinking of buying some trainers!
 
Taxing "unhealthy" good isn't the answer. That's putting a band aid on an open wound.
The solution needs to come before that, educating people about diet etc. And getting people to put the effort in to make a healthy meal for themselves (that doesn't cost the earth).

And I don't see why I should pay more for a chocolate bar because ~60% of the population are fat
 
I think these taxes and smaller sizes are a con in all honesty.

Making items smaller, people will just eat more and buy more.

Quality Street is an absolute rip off, Kettle crisps were, what 250g packets and now 200g but the same price?

Take the Toblerone for example, is it still missing chunks? Rich Tea biscuits are tiny now, argh.
 
Scam said:
I wish they'd hurry up. As per my thread in the bike forum (someone please tell me what tyres to buy!?) I have a decent bike half ready to go. Needs a clean, new inner tubes and tyres and I'd be off. If they leave it too long we'll miss the nice weather and most people won't bother.

Edit: The only problem is London drivers. My girlfriend has flat out refused to cycle around here and I don't blame her.
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I've bought some Michelin Endurance Pro 4's recently in 25mm. I had a puncture within days but since then I've been fine. £25 per tyre I think; a huge improvement on the tyres I had previously (though they were Decathlon Branded and 4 years old)
 
Perhaps Boris can tell me to find a decent bike. I spent a while researching and narrowing down my list of mountain bikes, I've been trying to buy one now for the past 5 or 6 months but nowhere has any stock, well not unless you're talking about spending £3k or so - which I am not.
 
Ninco! said:
I think these taxes and smaller sizes are a con in all honesty.

Making items smaller, people will just eat more and buy more.

Quality Street is an absolute rip off, Kettle crisps were, what 250g packets and now 200g but the same price?

Take the Toblerone for example, is it still missing chunks? Rich Tea biscuits are tiny now, argh.
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We have to look at the research and see if there's an effect. I'm sceptical until that point, but if it's proven then i'd be tepidly supportive. That said, I really think we need a lot more education on how to eat well and care for our bodies, there's so much very basic knowledge i've picked up after a health scare a few years ago that may have been of use earlier in life. As people live longer, the strains on the NHS are only going to increase.
 
Malevolence said:
Perhaps Boris can tell me to find a decent bike. I spent a while researching and narrowing down my list of mountain bikes, I've been trying to buy one now for the past 5 or 6 months but nowhere has any stock, well not unless you're talking about spending £3k or so - which I am not.
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Permanently "borrow" a Boris bike
 
Malevolence said:
London is a bit too far away, and besides they look like they'd be awful on the trails and around the Moorlands and Peak District. :D
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I dunno, I've seen people riding them down stairs and all sorts.

Someone even rode one to Africa apparently :D

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Shadowness said:
Taxing "unhealthy" good isn't the answer. That's putting a band aid on an open wound.
The solution needs to come before that, educating people about diet etc. And getting people to put the effort in to make a healthy meal for themselves (that doesn't cost the earth).

And I don't see why I should pay more for a chocolate bar because ~60% of the population are fat
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Education as the solution is such a tired response. Education isn't the issue, I'm 33 and remember being taught about balanced meals, food groups and portion sizes at high school which was nearly 20 years ago.

Nobody buys takeaway under some misguided thought that it's healthy. There's a mixture of issues, included the proliferation of fast food outlets and increased accessibility with services like Just Eat and Deliveroo.

In 1980, only 6% of UK males were obese, with this figure sat at 22% in 2009 - there's no way education was better 40 years ago vs today.

There's such a mixed bag across the board in Europe. The Netherlands is circa half the obesity of the UK (chose the Netherlands as they're extremely pro cycling), but their rate is also rising. Romania has a low percentage, which could indicate it's wealth related and Malta has a high rate of 24% which I find surprising for Mediterranean country.
 
Why do people keep banging on about education as a solution? How mentally deficient do you need to be to not understand that consuming too many calories relative to your expenditure will increase body fat? Literally every packet of food now shows you how many calories it has and what approximate percentage of your daily allowance that is.

As for a balanced diet, it's pretty obvious from the name. We've also had the 5 a day slogan rammed down out throats for 2 decades!
 
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