One Meal a Day (OMAD)
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Caporegime
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I've never understood the whole "cavemen did it, so we should too" argument
i'm not saying just because they did it we should.
however someone said it's harmful to do this. when humans did it for centuries naturally. the body adapts to survive. humans naturally aren't supposed to have dairy or large amounts of sugar. it takes 30 generations for a change in diet to become naturally accepted by humans. therefore a lot of the modern diets and foods are toxic to humans as are modern ways of thinking about food.
basically a lot of people don't know jack about food or dieting. then spout rubbish when they are clueless. show me why it's harmful to eat this way for instance? when muslims intermittently fast for a month at a time with zero issues. and there is a billion of them on the planet. why aren't they all dropping dead at 30?
I know a Muslim guy who I game with on Discord and during Ramadam he sleeps most of the day and eats at night so their fasting isn't fasting as such, because they are allowed to eat at night, so... he lives in Algeria and a lot of the people he knows does the same thing. I guess not every Muslim does it this way though.
Its a bit more than that, when studying modern primative tribes they don't have 90% of the conditions we have our diets have changed faster than evolution. However it also means we can if you choose eat more like these tribes/cavemen etc and fill in the gaps that they have as well.I've never understood the whole "cavemen did it, so we should too" argument
Soldato
Great thread! I just started doing this a few days ago, didn't realise it was 'a thing' just fancied trying something different to lose weight. What I do know is the weight is coming off fast and I feel a lot better.
The problem is when most people thin they are following a "primal" diet they couldn't be further form the truth (try 70-80% of calories form carbs for starters). and the science doesn't backup that they are any healthier. They suffer form different conditions and in general will die much earlier than someone following a western diet.
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Well, no idea about the medical side, but I've always found any major change in diet to be dangerous during the transition period, when your body is meant to be adapting.
For instance, this OMAD thing - I've been doing it for a good 5 years, now... but every single day at about this time (which is what prompted me to pop back to this thread) I get a massive wave of tiredness. I'm hungry, I'm lethargic, I'm grouchy, I can't think straight (jokes aside), I have no mental or physical energy - I wouldn't even dream of driving or operating machinery at this point, but I bet you a lot of people still would and not even realise how dangerous they're being.
Same for people going Paleo, or Cambridge/LighterLife - A lot complain of things like 'carb withdrawal' headaches and exhaustion, but they don't make any allowances for that.
this isnt the case at all. the studies show that despite high fat diets, lower in carb they suffer non of the modern dieseases the west does. when you take into account other life-extending things liek medicine, they live very long lives,
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it takes about 3 days before your body starts to adjust so the first 3 days are the hardest. after that the longer you do it the easier it becomes. unless you go back to old habits as the body has known that routine for so long it will quickly change back.
And see here you go, completely wrong on their diet:
https://consumer.healthday.com/circ...y-have-healthiest-hearts-on-earth-720761.html
So as i correctly said, 70-80% carbohydrates and extremely low fat diet.
Then there is the rather inconvenient fact that a vegan diet get much closer to a true paleolithic diet than the ridiculous modern fad:
https://nutritionfacts.org/2014/09/23/will-the-real-paleo-diet-please-stand-up/
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Good luck with your weight loss and what works for you is good enough. Personally I'm pretty lean but I can get bloated if I eat or drink the wrong things. I am very active though and eat constantly, I can't imagine not eating multiple times a day. I really enjoy food
here i dont go, so you show one tribe. now how about all the other tribes and all the other research into diets through the ages? All the modern tribes which are still high proteine, how about the earlisest farmers some 12k years ago that had 40-50% of calories from animals. How about all the 100s of mummies that have been analyised and 3/4 of them where mainly animal sourced diet and the one area which wasnt animal based, got the majority from nuts and seeds.
ANd more importantly the bit you always liek to skip. The science like hormonal responses, cholestrol profiles etc.
You are the only one who brought up primal or the modern fad, I haven't mentioned either, so try again on that front as weel.
Soldato
Basically extreme intermittent fasting? Sounds ok, don't think I could deal with it though. I'm much better eating regularly.
Glad it's going well!
Glad it's going well!
It does get pretty easy afte
after a few days. Also make sure you adding a fair bit of salt throughout the day.
Soldato
Just drink a tonne of water or have some caffeine, it will help a bit.
With no food intake, how do I do this?
Add it to drink or take an electrolyte tab.
Insulin tells your kidneys to hold on to salt and as fasting for 24hours significantly lowers insulin your kidneys flush it out.
Never taken those electrolyte tablets before, I’ve seen Myprotein do 180 for £9 but not sure they are worth it.
I’ve been drinking tea as I can’t have coffee or any energy drinks, am I likely to undo any progress made by drinking tea with sugar instead of some decent food?