Only AMD has true Async Compute - Doom Devs

fs123 · 1 Jun 2016 at 10:54

The ID guys confirm what we all suspected. In their own words they say only AMD has "true Async Compute"
Whilst talking about various DX12 technology they mention that "these features are currently only available on AMD chipsets".

Oh and according to them Vulkan is a modern API with roots in AMD Mantle.

Watch from 14:30 onwards

oap · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:02

Not really news though, everyone knows that

Rroff · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:03

To be picky their comment is that AMD has true ASync compute - they aren't commenting on other hardware - it doesn't have bearing on whether anything else has it or not only that AMD has it, while they mention exclusive features it is in context of a selection of features.

Everyone has known for awhile that only AMD has true asynchronousity in the compute queue scheduler.

Gregster · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:11

Raja doesn't look comfortable in front of a camera.

Rroff · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:18

Gregster said:
Raja doesn't look comfortable in front of a camera.

Looks like he has had to overcome a lot to get up there and speak publicly none the less I assume English is a second language for him.

ICDP · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:19

fs123 said:
The ID guys confirm what we all suspected. In their own words they say only AMD has "true Async Compute"
Whilst talking about various DX12 technology they mention that "these features are currently only available on AMD chipsets".

This is one of the reaons I feel Pascal is a backward facing architecture in comparison to Polaris. DX11 is the past, DX12 is the future and it is clear AMD are better equipped to take advantage of DX12.

Gregster · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:21

Rroff said:
Looks like he has had to overcome a lot to get up there and speak publicly none the less I assume English is a second language for him.

I admire those who do it. I did a review of the Oculus Rift and was a bag of nerves and that isn't in front of a live audience and can do take after take (which I did). The more he does it, the easier it will get and confidence will ooze.

Ayahuasca · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:25

Gregster said:
Raja doesn't look comfortable in front of a camera.

He wasn't that bad.

He's an engineer at heart though.

harney · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:32

I thought he did well like Ayahuaca stated he is an engineer after all

Now i found this funny not keen on the Linus guy as he kind of bugs me a little...But re when he gets the bag out epic fail but was very comical all-most a Monty python moment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqCo0LTUhsE

flopper · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:34

oap said:
Not really news though, everyone knows that

You could think a lot of people here dont know how superior AMD are at Dx12.

Rroff said:
Looks like he has had to overcome a lot to get up there and speak publicly none the less I assume English is a second language for him.

english my second language to and I have no issues talking to people about various subjects.
I am really awesome though and maybe thats why?

Gregster · 1 Jun 2016 at 11:41

harney said:
I thought he did well like Ayahuaca stated he is an engineer after all

Now i found this funny not keen on the Linus guy as he kind of bugs me a little...But re when he gets the bag out epic fail but was very comical all-most a Monty python moment...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqCo0LTUhsE

I proper laughed out loud at that

I wonder how well that cooler does though.

shankly1985 · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:17

"We invested in Mantle that inspired DirectX 12"

His words at 12.50

Who said DX12 was already coming before mantle?? LOL

Marine-RX179 · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:23

shankly1985 said:
"We invested in Mantle that inspired DirectX 12"

His words at 12.50

Who said DX12 was already coming before mantle?? LOL

Pretty sure there are still plenty people around this part of the forum willing to argue with you about that

shankly1985 · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:29

Marine-RX179 said:
Pretty sure there are still plenty people around this part of the forum willing to argue with you about that

I said it ages ago and i still not changed. He just confirmed it on stage. They is no hiding it now! haa

Ayahuasca · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:32

I don't think anyone ever argued AMD claimed Mantle lead to DX12 but that's all that's happening in that video an AMD employee claiming it again. Doesn't make it true, have you learned not to believe everything said on stage?

Jono8 · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:33

The new 1070 seems to rival the Fury series on AMD's favourite, Ashes with less theoretical flops etc so doesnt look like its a problem for pascal.

In fact it marginally beats the Fury X in guru's review.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_gaming_x_8g_review,15.html

AlamoX · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:34

i think this was clear from some time now, nvidia explained that the improvement they made in pascal is related to context switching and better pre-emption, they never claimed hardware implementation.
the war on async will happen first at the studios of game developers, AMD will try to push as many games into async, and nvidia will try to keep devs on dx11 as much as possible.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:37

Jono8 said:
The new 1070 seems to rival the Fury series on AMD's favourite, Ashes with less theoretical flops etc so doesnt look like its a problem for pascal.

In fact it marginally beats the Fury X in guru's review.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_gaming_x_8g_review,15.html

With a third generation 20NM node shrink it should!

Jono8 · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:39

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
With a third generation 20NM node shrink it should!

What i mean is the 1070 = 980ti = Fury x in relative gaming performance so the 1070 is showing that amd dont have the dx12 advantage they had against maxwell.

TheRealDeal · 1 Jun 2016 at 13:49

Jono8 said:
The new 1070 seems to rival the Fury series on AMD's favourite, Ashes with less theoretical flops etc so doesnt look like its a problem for pascal.

In fact it marginally beats the Fury X in guru's review.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_gaming_x_8g_review,15.html

They were using the high preset. Here is the Extreme preset.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-pascal-performance,4585-3.html

Fury X is now only 10% behind the 1080 and Fury Pro is now faster than the 1070. It does look like Nvidia have moved performance on around 10% in DX12. I wonder if there was any difference in drivers used for NV cards.

The Maxwell-based cards employ Nvidia’s newest driver at the time of testing, GeForce Game Ready Driver 365.10. For the GeForce GTX 1080, we had to use the company’s press driver, 368.13.