Onlyfans to ban adult content

JGBR said:
people will study this as how to destroy your business model.
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What choice do they have? you can't do business without the financial services industry. People will look back on it as a time when economic and individual freedom was under attack from all corners and the masses were too docile to care.

The move, announced Thursday, is part of the UK-based company's changes 'to comply with the requests of our banking partners and payout providers,'
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If illegal stuff is happening it's a police matter nobody appointed big corporations as morality police.
 
mmj_uk said:
What choice do they have? you can't do business without the financial services industry. People will look back on it as a time when economic and individual freedom was under attack from all corners and the masses were too docile to care.



If illegal stuff is happening it's a police matter nobody appointed big corporations as morality police.
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They were told to remove CP, not all porn tho, weren't they?

The BBC reported that they got in trouble for underage streamers on the platform.

As a reaction they've banned all porn streamers. Baby... bath water...
 
mmj_uk said:
What choice do they have? you can't do business without the financial services industry. People will look back on it as a time when economic and individual freedom was under attack from all corners and the masses were too docile to care.



If illegal stuff is happening it's a police matter nobody appointed big corporations as morality police.
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Except for the moral panic etc etc which is remarkably effective at shutting down any thing the anti porn people don't like, especially in the US where it's been used repeatedly over the years under the pretext of stopping "human trafficking" (with raids that rarely find anyone trafficked), and child porn etc.

I'm not sure if it's been posted, but apparently Mastercard are expecting Onlyfans to get both full documentation of every person involved in "adult" content, and to review all the "adult" content, including streaming pretty much in real time (no reacting to reports, but having to monitor any streams done as they went up).
Effectively an impossible task as it would require them to have thousands more staff.

I have no issue about about trying to stop illegal content, but there is an element of how far is it "right" to go to stop it and this seems like it's overkill, as they're effectively shutting down a safe avenue used by (tens of?) thousands of legitimate people to potentially stop a handful who are breaking the law, and from what I understand OF were actually better at the sort of detection/prevention/dealing with issues than most of the other sites.
 
FoxEye said:
They were told to remove CP, not all porn tho, weren't they?

The BBC reported that they got in trouble for underage streamers on the platform.

As a reaction they've banned all porn streamers. Baby... bath water...
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IIRC MC imposed pretty much impossible conditions on them (see my previous post), and Visa are expected to do the same.
 
ic1male said:
That's what I was wondering, too. Isn't being nude sexually explicit in itself? Or maybe it's non-aroused v aroused.
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I vaguely recall that in some places in the past people were allowed to be nude in a show as long as they didn't move. Perhaps the same standards will be applied again.
 
Somnambulist said:
^ I know a girl that had a big social media following and started an OF on the premise of it being just ‘shots that were a bit too much for IG’. Ended up doing hardcore just because ‘show a bit more = more money comes in’ ended up netting her £20k a month on the regular. Husband behind the camera, he was a layabout pretty much, just mumping off her newfound wealth.

Anyway, the way OF works isn’t just luring people in to pay the monthly subscription to see your feed, that’s the baseline, you then have some content that’s only viewable if you pay additional money (the bonus shots/vids etc), you can also charge for ‘custom’ content via DMs or you can just receive tips because tipping extra just shows what an amazing fan you are… :cry:

All you have to just talk to your audience like you’re talking to them as individuals and sell this sort of online gf experience and it seems there’s a generation of men who are quite willing to throw their money at women they’ve never met genuinely believing they have some sort of deeper connection than the ‘regular’ fans on IG/Twitch/YouTube/Twitter, than have a real physical relationship. It’s really, really weird.

The good creators know how to wield the carrot and stick so that subscribers will always keep renewing and paying the extra in hope/expectation for more and it reliably works as long as you’ve already got a social media following elsewhere.
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It's like the "free to play" business model with games, but even more exploitative of customers because it's more personally targetted.
 
Somnambulist said:
^ I know a girl that had a big social media following and started an OF on the premise of it being just ‘shots that were a bit too much for IG’. Ended up doing hardcore just because ‘show a bit more = more money comes in’ ended up netting her £20k a month on the regular. Husband behind the camera, he was a layabout pretty much, just mumping off her newfound wealth.

Anyway, the way OF works isn’t just luring people in to pay the monthly subscription to see your feed, that’s the baseline, you then have some content that’s only viewable if you pay additional money (the bonus shots/vids etc), you can also charge for ‘custom’ content via DMs or you can just receive tips because tipping extra just shows what an amazing fan you are… :cry:

All you have to just talk to your audience like you’re talking to them as individuals and sell this sort of online gf experience and it seems there’s a generation of men who are quite willing to throw their money at women they’ve never met genuinely believing they have some sort of deeper connection than the ‘regular’ fans on IG/Twitch/YouTube/Twitter, than have a real physical relationship. It’s really, really weird.

The good creators know how to wield the carrot and stick so that subscribers will always keep renewing and paying the extra in hope/expectation for more and it reliably works as long as you’ve already got a social media following elsewhere.
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As a bona fide weirdo myself, even I find people throwing money at strangers on their screen to be weird. Porn and non-porn (Twitch, etc).

The idea that you have any kind of connection is so truly false and bizarre, you might as well just use/abuse regular porn. I guess there may be a subset of these people who want to be a cash cow/sugar daddy, and for whom that aspect may add to the enjoyment.

But it's very, deeply, weird. Why spend all your life working for money, only to throw it at the screen to some young'un who has no appreciation of the value of money, and never will :p
 
C Kent said:
3 pages of folks not able to do basic research. Porn isn't banned it's just degenerate **** that's no longer acceptable.
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That's a bold entry. Bit of a shame you've quoted the old Onlyfans content restrictions and not the new ones, the ones that this thread is about. Perhaps you should do some basic research before jumping in.
 
Never even heard of the website until this thread.

I understand the appeal, in the sense that ‘prettiness’ in isolation triggers a happy feeling akin to eating chocolate that we all like to sustain. But it’s just a false reality to invest in. The more you satiate yourself by lazily staring at pretty things, the more irrelevant your own life will become to yourself.

hurfdurf said:
Shes been an amazing success story if she stays healthy and well. A lot of girls are doing this without thinking through the long term consequences and stigma the adult industry brings.

I’ve loved onlyfans myself, it’s been brilliant for Sex Workers and allowed a lot of people I know to earn far more money and be their own boss, rather than doing anything through management or an agency.
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As in, you know a lot of people that sell nude images via onlyfans?
 
Nitefly said:
Never even heard of the website until this thread.

I understand the appeal, in the sense that ‘prettiness’ in isolation triggers a happy feeling akin to eating chocolate that we all like to sustain. But it’s just a false reality to invest in. The more you satiate yourself by lazily staring at pretty things, the more irrelevant your own life will become to yourself.


As in, you know a lot of people that sell nude images via onlyfans?
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Iirc he's in that industry himself.
 
MissChief said:
There's been a newish site started up for a while. pays better than OF too apparently. Run by someone who actually shows on the site too. I won't link to it but it's called admireme.vip and is mostly UK based.
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Yeah lot of the OF creators are heading to there (used to hang out with Shelley IRL many years ago):

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(Hopefully nothing I should have filtered in the image)
 
Nitefly said:
Never even heard of the website until this thread.

I understand the appeal, in the sense that ‘prettiness’ in isolation triggers a happy feeling akin to eating chocolate that we all like to sustain. But it’s just a false reality to invest in. The more you satiate yourself by lazily staring at pretty things, the more irrelevant your own life will become to yourself.


As in, you know a lot of people that sell nude images via onlyfans?
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There is a huge spectrum to it - some are just hangers on who like to be part of something (some of the creators have sizeable communities), others are desperate, others see it as a sort of "alternative" to cheating, etc. etc.

I don't know the ins and outs of it financially and only a few are going to rise nearer the top but I know a couple of people who are making amounts per month from it most people maybe make in a year...
 
FoxEye said:
As a bona fide weirdo myself, even I find people throwing money at strangers on their screen to be weird. Porn and non-porn (Twitch, etc).

The idea that you have any kind of connection is so truly false and bizarre, you might as well just use/abuse regular porn. I guess there may be a subset of these people who want to be a cash cow/sugar daddy, and for whom that aspect may add to the enjoyment.

But it's very, deeply, weird. Why spend all your life working for money, only to throw it at the screen to some young'un who has no appreciation of the value of money, and never will :p
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It’s part of the new safetyism culture IMO - on OF you can interact with and get some form of attention and dopamine hit from attractive women who would never look at you in a million years or knew you existed before, without the fear of rejection or frustration. It’s a form of ‘safe space’ but sexualised.

Rejection and frustration are fundamental, unavoidable parts of reality when it comes to social/dating interaction though, so all many of these people are doing is wasting their time and money on a delusion that likely makes them even worse at attempting or coping with the real world when at some point they inevitably have to bump into it.
 
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