opera mini submited to app store

You really think they wont accept it, after MS and the browser ballot. Opera are just waiting to sue Apple, but more to the point, its a better browser and really proves how far behind Apple are compared to Opera
 
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You really think they wont accept it, after MS and the browser ballot. Opera are just waiting to sue Apple, but more to the point, its a better browser and really proves how far behind Apple are compared to Opera
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tbh I hope it is rejected and opera do sue apple, or at least bring them to the competition commission. Apple are ******* where it comes to locking down everything to do with the iPhone and limiting the API's so you can't change anything that they dont want to you.

I didn't really like that opera were kicking up such a fuss about MS, but i like it even less that they only picked on MS and not Apple too.
 
As much as I love Apple for their engineering and quality apps, this was always going to happen from the moment they failed to draft out proper development rules for their apps. Their silly early on API restrictions only served to hurt themselves and developers early on until they opened up API's later.

I hope something is done because Android is gaining pace and the other OS's have a lot more going for them right now.
 
Kainz said:
As much as I love Apple for their engineering and quality apps, this was always going to happen from the moment they failed to draft out proper development rules for their apps. Their silly early on API restrictions only served to hurt themselves and developers early on until they opened up API's later.

I hope something is done because Android is gaining pace and the other OS's have a lot more going for them right now.
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Well, you've got to question how much ground they're really making, the devices are getting better but app wise I looked around recently as my contract is about up and I was considering android and the fact is that of the apps I use daily only about half have a direct equivalent I can find and the even then many of those are feature deficient (as an example facebook's iphone app seems a generation ahead of the android and blackberry version from what I can see).

I've no time for the 'I hope opera take them to court' brigade. It's apple's product, you buy it it's no secret what you're buying into, don't like it then get something else.

And seemingly it can take weeks for apple to approve apps (the latest Facebook app took a week or so but more dubious things can be held for approval for weeks or months it seems)
 
Is this going to be free? If so, what do Opera gain bar mindshare?

Edit: Ah, perhaps it's dosh from the mighty Google for default search engine traffic.

I look forward to trying it. Worth a go.
 
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They used to charge for the desktop browser and they charge you for the Wii browser (I haven't checked in awhile so that might of changed). So they could charge for this as well.
 
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It definitely happens with normal handset usage as well. I assume they are re-encoding images with increased compression and caching them on their own internal servers.
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Yeah, I'm with Virgin and notice this when I tether my old old W850i to my netbook. Definitely infeiror quality but considering I only get 25MB data allowance per day (which is 30p each day, pretty good I thought) it's entirely justified.

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They used to charge for the desktop browser and they charge you for the Wii browser (I haven't checked in awhile so that might of changed). So they could charge for this as well.
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The Wii browser is now free. Those who bought it beforehand can also get a Wii points refund too :)
 
Opera Mini is now approved and available in the App Store.

First impression is that the look & feel is odd and not very native. Let's see if speed and extra features make up for that.
 
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Just downloaded it on my 3G. I'll try it properly on the bus ride to work in a bit.
 
First impressions

quite slow to load compared to safari

Wasted space at top of screen woth status bar and page name

Very Fast at rendering pages and navigating around

Zoom is very quick

Gets confused on some pages and the text layout goes awry

Doesn't always load pages first time after entering an address, same with hitting links on the page.

On logins not seen a next button to move form username to password


Overall i'm pretty impressed so far by the performance, some tweaks to the ui still needed to cut it down an simplify, but good.
 
Incredibly fast load times on virtually everything via 3G.

Opera load times are 3-4 seconds on the iPhone 3G. Safari runs partially in the background so instant app load times were always impossible.

You can't go full screen, which is a massive irritation. By now even Safari should have this option.

Springboard website shortcuts obviously load Safari. It would be nice if we could associate them with Opera but obviously Apple would whinge.

So far first impressions are good, and I'll try this out as my main browser for a good week as safari is getting to me lately.
 
Theres a semi full screen mode in settings, cuts down the ui quite nicely.

Doesn't offer tab browsing much better than Safari as already seen the 'this page has been cleared to save memory, please reload' when switching between tabs, but fast loading makes up for it.
 
Best app ive come across on iPhone yet.
Fast loading, fast gui, everything about it is near instant, and the loading on entire sites faster than Safari can on 3g, when using a 2g connection, very impressive.

Only flaw, doesnt like proxies, so i cant use it with the WiFi at work :(.
 
Disappointed with this so far, Opera made a big enough deal about getting it approved in a direct 'challenge' to Safari, but it's fundamentally not as good.

Just using the bookmarked BBC News site as an example. When you first go there, the text isn't rendered properly in fully zoomed out mode, okay, even in Safari at this view it's tiny, but you can at least make out words. With Opera you have to zoom to see anything, which feels like a throwback to its browser on older phones with much smaller res screens, when 'seeing' a whole website at all was a novelty.

Also, when you rotate from portrait to landscape, it doesn't zoom to fill the screen, where a site like BBC on Safari is now fully legible, Opera still requires zooming. Scrolling isn't great either. When you're reading a column of text, it 'skits' about from left to right when scrolling down - almost as if it's being *too* true to finger movement, whereas Safari seems to compensate for this by locking to the column a bit more.

Tabs are nice though ;)
 
A bit slow to load, but the overall performance is amazing! Drudgereport, which is very very slow to load on Safari comes up almost instantly on Opera.

I'm switching this to my main browser for a week and seeing how it goes. TBH the speed makes me think I won't be switching back any time soon. Things like the BBC News text not being readable doesn't bother me, because I can navigate the whole site so much faster. If I want to read a story I can zoom in, otherwise I can just read the headlines which is enough.
 
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