Poll: Oppression Via circumcision
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I had a frenuloplasty too except in mine they successfully elongated the frenulum. Before the op they told me that if they couldn't do it they would have to circumcise. At the time I was dreading it but now I don't think it would be too big a deal. I'm glad I kept it though.
Someone was asking earlier about names of conditions that MAY result in circumcision. Phimosis is the most comon which is a tight foreskin which may not retract at all or only retract a little. I had frenulum breve which means the frenulum (banjo) is short which also restricts the foreskin retracting.
I would bet any money there are guys reading who can't retract their foreskin so if that's you please don't be embarassed about seeing your GP. Better to get it sorted sooner rather than later.
PS I can't believe I'm having this discussion on OcUK.
Ah, when I had a consultation with my doctor, she said she could just stretch the frenulum, but I said I wanted it removed. Now after its healed, the skin retracts all the way back and you can't tell I had the op.
Biased opinion but I actually think circumcised penises look sexier.
Roles reversed, I don't think I would enjoy eating an orange that hadn't been peeled first... ! Ahem.
True, a girl without a labia (minora) is so much more attractive....
Both my brothers had theirs done when they were very young and same with my nephew..if and when i have a son then i will get it done...purely for religious reasons which im not going to go into tbqh as i havent got the time to do so.
I never got circumcised due to my foreskin not covering the head of my penis but really it was my grandad who made the ultimate choice of not having mine done the knob that he was....but its never caused me any discomfort although compared to my brothers, who had theirs done i felt a bit out of place ie why is theirs cut off and not mine. Only thing is that i have to keep it clean every day or else it just gets dirty but then i always have 2 showers a day...i did go and see my GP about getting it down a few yrs back but decided in the end not to as it wasnt worth the pain and time to heal.
I never got circumcised due to my foreskin not covering the head of my penis but really it was my grandad who made the ultimate choice of not having mine done the knob that he was....but its never caused me any discomfort although compared to my brothers, who had theirs done i felt a bit out of place ie why is theirs cut off and not mine. Only thing is that i have to keep it clean every day or else it just gets dirty but then i always have 2 showers a day...i did go and see my GP about getting it down a few yrs back but decided in the end not to as it wasnt worth the pain and time to heal.
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No mine does retract properly what im saying is its not long n ugly looking.
I certainly hope you aren't going to do it to your son.
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Sorry I'm late to this party.
I consider circumcision genital mutilation and am infinitely grateful for my parents for leaving me as God (i.e. evolution) intended.
What is interesting is the societal influences -- a few american (female) friends consider uncut disgusting. Go figure.
I consider circumcision genital mutilation and am infinitely grateful for my parents for leaving me as God (i.e. evolution) intended.
What is interesting is the societal influences -- a few american (female) friends consider uncut disgusting. Go figure.
He certainly will mate.
Dozens of muslim babies have it done every day world wide. They grow up knowing it's the norm and live perfectly healthy lives. I grew up thinking it was the norm and live a perfectly healthy life. And I am seriously glad my parents had me done when I was a baby.
If I wasn't cut now, I would really want to be, but I would be a pussy and chicken out.
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That has to be the poorest justification for anything I've ever read in my whole life, ever.
You're glad that you were circumcised, because if you weren't, you may have wanted to be (you may think you're certain on this, but there's no way you can be) when you became a man, but would be too afraid to get it done then? I know I just repeated what you said, but it's just idiotic. I wouldn't be so irritated about it if I thought you weren't going to force any potential son you may produce into having it done, just because you somehow know that he would have wanted you to get him done, when he's grown up.
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I agree in part with what you have said, I belive that religion should never ever have any say in what the human body does or dosent have. I personaly believe that it should only be done for medical or asthetic reasons.
As for social influencys what's wrong with that? It's a whole lot safer and less invasive than false boobies. If a person wants it off feel free.
Oh and on the cleaner front, I know those with will argue otherwise but, how can a flap of skin creating a moist body temperature void near a waste/protine exit not be a breeding ground for bacteria? I can garantee after a day of work mine would be cleaner, unless that ye olde foreskin has uber magical antibacterial propertys? (in which case I'm supprised flash haven't started selling them as a kitchen surface cleaner with a lemony fresh fragrance) IMO air cooled ***
Biased opinion but I actually think circumcised penises look sexier.
Are you a willy watcher?
there is something wrong with anyone that would consent to part of their body being removed, unless obviously for medical reasons...
and any parent that would consent to chopping off part of their baby's body is sick..
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So you're too much of a chicken **** to get it done yourself, and yet you'd be quite happy to put a baby through the experience?
And to sweeten the deal you'll no doubt brand him with, and expect him to follow, your religion too right?
What a lucky boy
actually it does, thats why it does not get eaten away by bacteria....
stick a saussage down your pants, walk round for a month with it there...
only one of the bits of meat in your pants will be good for anything after a month... so something magical is going on!
This topic has led to a huge thread on 2 other forums I frequent.
I'll try and summarise.
Personal anecdotal stuff first.
All but 1 of my female friends prefers the feel of uncut, due to the feel of a gliding motion and the ribbed effect. This is moot when a condom is used though.
I snapped my banjo string in my first sexual relationship. Stung like hell, but was fine within a week.
I think it is completely wrong for boys to get the snip unless for medical reasons.
I think the hygienic angle is only relevant if you are some dirty, unwashed hobo. Anyone with decent personal hygiene can keep it clean.
The desensitisation is only relevant if you have trouble going the distance in the first place.
Stuff garnered from the other forums:
Due to the vast majority of US males being cut, and porn stars pretty much all being cut, both guys and girls consider it to be the normal look, and think uncut looks gross.
Being cut does decrease sensitivity, but those having it done as kids don't know what they are missing, not that that justifies it.
Being uncut requires lube/lotion for a tommy tank.
How it heals isn't guaranteed, and a bad circumcision scar is uglier than an uncut penis.
HIV angle is a bit silly. Choosing to have sex with someone with HIV without protection is asking for trouble, 50% less likely to get it or not.
I'll try and summarise.
Personal anecdotal stuff first.
All but 1 of my female friends prefers the feel of uncut, due to the feel of a gliding motion and the ribbed effect. This is moot when a condom is used though.
I snapped my banjo string in my first sexual relationship. Stung like hell, but was fine within a week.
I think it is completely wrong for boys to get the snip unless for medical reasons.
I think the hygienic angle is only relevant if you are some dirty, unwashed hobo. Anyone with decent personal hygiene can keep it clean.
The desensitisation is only relevant if you have trouble going the distance in the first place.
Stuff garnered from the other forums:
Due to the vast majority of US males being cut, and porn stars pretty much all being cut, both guys and girls consider it to be the normal look, and think uncut looks gross.
Being cut does decrease sensitivity, but those having it done as kids don't know what they are missing, not that that justifies it.
Being uncut requires lube/lotion for a tommy tank.
How it heals isn't guaranteed, and a bad circumcision scar is uglier than an uncut penis.
HIV angle is a bit silly. Choosing to have sex with someone with HIV without protection is asking for trouble, 50% less likely to get it or not.
What the hell, are these the same people who still think the world is flat?
Reminds me of a girl I once worked with who was very insistent you could not catch HIV/Aids if you were on the pill!
Edit: Just read up on the point about it preventing HIV by up to 50% and still not buying it! all sounds a bit to convenient!
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Care to elaborate?
That just isnt true.