Organ Donations

haha i had to give a laugh at this...

Every religious person i have ever met (literally) has tried moral guilt tripping me about something or other....





EDIT: just had a thought - i think they should make a new rule that they can only transplant organs to people who are donor registered. That ought to get a few more people on the list ;)

Guess I'm an exception to the first. I'd never try and force my beliefs down someone else's throat as I think that doing so is wrong. I am entitled to believe what I will and so is everyone else.

The edit is curious as perhaps that is or could be deemed fair enough. But the n again one can hardly tell if you'll need a donation in the future... I'd not have a problem with it as if I'm willing to spend my life as a nay-sayer only to be expectant that I'll be able to take then that's an hypocritical attitude.

I think to be against or even for it you have to at least consider the other side. It's not fair for me to say no way I'll never donate, but then expect to be provided for. It is also not fair to expect everyone to want to donate without first thinking why you would not want to do so.
 
Thats right. Because it's so easy to just "stumble upon" videos of this nature isnt it? :rolleyes:

You'd be surprised! It happened not long back with the family of Nikki Catsouras, she stole her Dad's Porsche 911 and hit a concrete bridge at 100mph+. Not long afterwards her family found pictures of her mangled corpse, still at the wheel, on the internet.

So, it does happen it's just not that often.
 
What about the people who you leave behind? Would you like them to stumble upon video of your dead body being desecrated on 'tinternet?

Of course I wouldn't. But since they're not the sort of people to go looking, it doesn't rate very highly on my of "z0mg i hope it nevah happenz!" list.
 
You'd be surprised! It happened not long back with the family of Nikki Catsouras, she stole her Dad's Porsche 911 and hit a concrete bridge at 100mph+. Not long afterwards her family found pictures of her mangled corpse, still at the wheel, on the internet.

So, it does happen it's just not that often.

I'm very biased about donor cards as I'd have lost my dad 15 years ago if it hadn't been for some kind woman carrying a card (he got her heart). I was still a bit funny about it for a few months aftewards then I decided they could use any part they wanted, if it helped someone else and their family as much as it's helped us.

Everyone should have the choice though, I do believe it should be opt-out as there are a lot of incidents where people did want to donate but due to time contraints the hospital weren't able to get permission before the organs became damaged or useless. It should be made very simply to opt out though, for examply a tick box on each electoral register form that you're sent each year, on each council tax form etc.

My dad watched them doing the transplant (aftewards) as they recorded it!
 
God will give me all that I need once I'm in Heaven. Assuming I go to heaven. Going to hell without a liver could be one very yellow, itchy eternity.
 
But donating will be saving peoples lives, which is a good thing, so pushes you in favour of heaven, no? :)
 
Yeah, sometimes they take the clear outside bit of your eye (completley forgotten the name), and transplant those! How much surgery has moved on.

If you could specify what you want taken i would prefer that, i wouldnt know if i wanted me eyes to be fiddled with.

Also a mate of mine is aiming to be a surgeon and he has to perform minor surgery in some practicals, i've offered to be the patient if needed lol.
Cornea? My dad's friend had a Cornea transplant, really amazing what they can do.
 
I carry a card, I don't need them and I think anyone who doesn't donate other than religious views is stupid.
Why other than religious? Surely the religious thing would be to help people after your death? After all, it's your soul, not your squishy rotting meaty bits that go to the afterlife (I'd hope, anyway... who'd want to be in heaven next to a 500 year old rotting corpse?)

As long as my organs & various other parts are appropriately distributed, they can string what's left of me from a ceiling hook and use it as a piñata for all I care.

:)

Sounds like fun. I wonder if I can get that bit put on my donor card? :D
 
i know this probably sounds selfish but i really wouldn't do this, i wouldn't like the thought

...although if i was a donor i'd donate everything and then ask to be stuffed! no one would be forgetting me quickly then! lol
 
If you were involved in a bad accident, would you feel safe in the knowledge that the people trying to save you, know you're a donor? Because I don't.

I believe next of kin can make it known that you wanted to be an organ donor?

This arguments comes up every time and it's a no go. Organs have to be blood typed and tissue matched. They have no idea if you will be a match for anyone. So why would they kill you, perhaps get done for murder or struck of the register. When they know they have no idea if your organs could even be used. If you think this happens you have no idea how transplants work. It really isn't possible, even if they wanted it to be.

Why other than religious? Surely the religious thing would be to help people after your death? After all, it's your soul, not your squishy rotting meaty bits that go to the afterlife (I'd hope, anyway... who'd want to be in heaven next to a 500 year old rotting corpse?)
And in most cases that's true. There are a handful of religions where that is not the case though. As for the person saying he won't donate as he wants a Christian burial wtf, show me a bible passage which could be inferred as not donating or needing your body parts.
 
Hey, i was jsut wondering if anyone carries a card saying their happy to donate their organs if they die, or if in their will or whatever they say their happy to donate organs.

I'm too young to carry one i think, but in the future i may contemplate on getting a card.

The only thing I've done is state on my driving license that my body parts can be used. :)
 
Guess I'm an exception to the first. I'd never try and force my beliefs down someone else's throat as I think that doing so is wrong. I am entitled to believe what I will and so is everyone else.

Thats cool. Wasn't saying you were, just everyone else i've met :)

The edit is curious as perhaps that is or could be deemed fair enough. But the n again one can hardly tell if you'll need a donation in the future... I'd not have a problem with it as if I'm willing to spend my life as a nay-sayer only to be expectant that I'll be able to take then that's an hypocritical attitude.

So if you were lying in hospital and the doctor came over to you and said 'Voltar! We've got a heart for you...you want it?!', you'd politely decline and accept your fate? I don't think so.

I think to be against or even for it you have to at least consider the other side. It's not fair for me to say no way I'll never donate, but then expect to be provided for. It is also not fair to expect everyone to want to donate without first thinking why you would not want to do so.

I agree. I have thought about the other side of the argument and can't see ONE thing that is right with it. I know i'd die a happy guy if i knew that one of my organs could go to someone to give them life, ie. Kami's dad. Without that heart donated by that young woman, his dad would have died 15 years ago.

But thanks to this woman....Kami still has his dad and she is the one solely responsible for ensuring he lived on (apart from the surgeons and stuff :p).

Everytime i look at the other side of the argument, all i see are arguments like "i don't want someone poking around in me when i'm dead" or "my religion forbids it" etc. and these are not rational arguments at all.

I made that edit in my previous post and didn't mean it entirely seriously, but now i've thought about it, i think it is a damn good idea.

Bottom line is that i think there are thousands of people out there who would happily take someone elses organs if they needed it, but would say "eff off" if someone else needed theirs when they were deceased. All it is is selfishness.
 
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