**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

iviv said:
What's the best way to survive in the early game as Protoss? I'm starting to get two gateways and a reasonable number of zealots while trying to save my gas for the more expensive advanced units like colossi and void ray/carriers, though against Terran I'm starting to get stalkers out earlier so I can actually hit marines before I have charge researched. Is it just a case of build more units?
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sentries, and good map awareness...its still tough though. i still havent managed to figure out how to beat tanks/ghost/maruder push :( again im a firm believer that T needs more nerfing on T1.

early zea/stalker pressure is good too aslong as you can pull back

there was a good tatic in dreamhack today where a P used FF to block a terran into his own base whilst he teched.
 
I'm starting to find this game very frustrating. Everybody I play just turtles and it's SOOO boring. I don't really want to play 2 hour games where they don't do anything.......just sit in their base and build 3 billion units....which they don't even move. It's like I either win within 10 mins, or get bored out of my brains. Even my last two games against Protoss were a snooze-fest, and usually they're the most exciting. Bah.
 
I cant see how the game could possibly last that long if they just sit in their base. The minerals will run out and they will be forced to expand. I dont find it boring as it presents the challenge of cracking the nut.

Either way, if someone wants to just sit in their base it kinda hands the win to you and I cant see this happening at higher levels?
 
iamtheoneneo said:
sentries, and good map awareness...its still tough though. i still havent managed to figure out how to beat tanks/ghost/maruder push :( again im a firm believer that T needs more nerfing on T1.

early zea/stalker pressure is good too aslong as you can pull back

there was a good tatic in dreamhack today where a P used FF to block a terran into his own base whilst he teched.
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Since when ghosts and tanks are T1?You keep saying how imba terran is,if you don't mind me asking,what league are you in?
 
Indie said:
DeMusliM has dropped out of DreamHack :(

quite gutted about that, wonder why though :/
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He pulled out because he waited too long to sort flights and stuff out and couldn't get anyone to pick him up at the airport. He has anxiety problems when travelling.

Indie said:
Yeah he has broken his arm previously. Quite sad that there is no UK representation in Dreamhack :(

Rob.. go pro and represent!
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RG Fury is at Dreamhack, never heard of him personally though. He's been beat 2-1 by LaLush and 2-0'd by HuK so far though (although the brackets show that he's 1 win 1 loss so far :confused:).
 
Spike560 said:
I cant see how the game could possibly last that long if they just sit in their base. The minerals will run out and they will be forced to expand. I dont find it boring as it presents the challenge of cracking the nut.

Either way, if someone wants to just sit in their base it kinda hands the win to you and I cant see this happening at higher levels?
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Exactly, any attempt at turtling is a guaranteed loss. In games like C&C generals this isn't the case, because one can create sources of infinite income and can use super weapons from a distance. In starcraft you simply can't maintain an income without expanding, if you turtle the enemy can out expand you and maintain a higher income. It doesn't matter what defence you have in that situation, you will lose. All T3 units are excellent at breaking such situations.
 
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RAGE!

Just had one of those days. Played vs a protoss, he cheesed two gateways into my base which I didn't spot. Still, first time I've had that happen the way it did, need to do more checking the corners of my base, something to learn.
Zerg then rushed me with 'lings before my walloff was finished and murdered my mineral line. Held them off with the probes and played for about 5 mins but there was no way I was ever going to come back from it.
Then terran just marine/maraudered me, which I need to get better at handling. If I loose to it enough times I should learn to build more sentries, and earlier.

At least I managed to just win vs terran on metalopolis. He built a huge army up at his natural, mm + sieged tanks, so blinked into his base and got a 'lol blink OP' before he quit, which made the whole evening better.

Well, I'm learning lots at least, just making loads of mistakes too XD
 
Alex74 said:
(Seriously though: infestors are insane :D)
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They are indeed, I've started encourporating them more into my game recently, trying to keep them alive long enough to get the infestor/broodlord mix for the late game.

I feel that Infestors are the matching unit for colossi and tanks, extreamly good when used correctly, awesome for containment and harassing, but very weak on their own :)


Curio said:
I'm starting to find this game very frustrating. Everybody I play just turtles and it's SOOO boring. I don't really want to play 2 hour games where they don't do anything.......just sit in their base and build 3 billion units....which they don't even move. It's like I either win within 10 mins, or get bored out of my brains. Even my last two games against Protoss were a snooze-fest, and usually they're the most exciting. Bah.
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If anybody is turtling just tech to your seige breaker unit and roll them. Shouldn't take more than 10-13 minutes to get this far safely.

Bloomfield said:
RG Fury is at Dreamhack, never heard of him personally though. He's been beat 2-1 by LaLush and 2-0'd by HuK so far though (although the brackets show that he's 1 win 1 loss so far :confused:).
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I thought Fury was Swedish? - didn't see any of his games mind you,
EDIT: totally misread your post, Sorry! thought you were implying that he was a Brit ^^

I only got chance to catch the back end of sundays games. RO16.
Enjoyed Day[9] and dApollo's casting though :)
 
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gonna miss it as im at work.. just trying to keep up with the tweets from TL and DH!

I should be home in time for the final though, and i might catch some of the July/Bomber games
 
What time is the finals UK time, at the gym at 7 and don't fancy missing the last game if its a 2-2 series =/.

Can't decide who i want to win, probably moon.
 
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