Oscar Pistorius thread
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He knew his house. Just look at the toilet.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26417240
To say he fired four shots blindly through that door at someone and didn't intend to kill them, is preposterous. What was he trying to do instead?
Because firing a gun doesn't automatically imply intent to kill.
He said he thought they were coming through the door. He then fired 4 shots at the door. He intended to kill whoever it was on the other side of that door.
I agree, but what he did was reckless and that is being generous.
In the country recklessness is not a defence, does the same principal stand in South Africa?
Soldato
So what was the intention in this case?
Was it not the noise of the window that alerted him, its conceivable that he fired low in the bathroom (pardon the pun) in a panic, his testimony bears this out. its difficult to prove he actually intended to murder someone, hence the dismissal of the first two charges.
Only Pistorius knows.
He said he fired because he thought he heard them coming out of the toilet. He fired 4 shots at the toilet door. What was his intention?
Not really that simple is it.
Soldato
Yep, totally agree.
I understand it might not be your viewpoint and indeed that in the eyes of the law that the two circumstance could be different.
However in reality they just are not, I cannot see why I would fire into a door if I did not intend to seriously injure/ kill something on the other side.
You would not do it to scare someone, you would not do it to warn them you had a gun, you would only need to do it once to let them know you had a gun.
He has gone to the door, fired into it repeatedly because he is either mental (which it has been proved he is not) OR he intended to hurt the person on the other side.
In a situation where its a 50/50 chance that its your girlfriend or a burglar on the other side of the door how can you possibly justify shooting first and asking questions later?
Its a ******** argument.
If he gets charged with anything less than Second-degree murder then it's been a massive miscarriage of justice!! And once again goes to show if you have expensive lawyers and/or you are a celeb. you can get away with murder
O.J Simpson anyone?
O.J Simpson anyone?
Man of Honour
To ensure that the toilet was properly ventilated. Nobody likes toilet odor.
If he gets charged with anything less than Second-degree murder then it's been a massive miscarriage of justice!! And once again goes to show if you have expensive lawyers and/or you are a celeb. you can get away with murder
He has already got away with second degree murder. Only thing left is culpable homicide or acquittal.
To not be killed in all likelihood, as is said its reasonable to assume he panicked and fired at the intruder, that's not intent to kill.
This is South Africa, not leafy Kent. I'd probably poo my pants and shoot at an intruder before they potentially killed me as well. That's the point here, intent to kill. The Judge doesn't feel that the intent has been adequately demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt, I can see why.
The open window was outside of the toilet in the bathroom (in Oscar's view)
Yes I looked, and adjusted the post accordingly. Still not enough evidence that he intended to murder someone though.
