Out of intrest how quick are these?

The_Dark_Side · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:21

ca9phoenix said:
the mondeo's are crap tho, i recently witnessed a cinquechento get away from a 2.5 mondeo... ok they cheated and went over wet ground ant the mondeo got stuck but there still pants

well if that doesn't tell you they don't uprate them then nothing will, lol.
the Escort Cossies that patroled Hull had their alloys replaced by steelies and the suspension raised by an inch+half (i think).
reason?
the local car thieves used to drive up kerbs to get away and alloys+low suspension stops plod from being able to pursue.

moss · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:22

ca9phoenix said:
the mondeo's are crap tho, i recently witnessed a cinquechento get away from a 2.5 mondeo... ok they cheated and went over wet ground ant the mondeo got stuck but there still pants

That might have something to do with the tyres, a 2.5 mondeo would have no problem catching a cinq and they arent actually all that bad a car.

ca9phoenix · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:22

hartside's my old neck of the woods (alston) i'd rather they were there on R1's might lower the death toll on that road!

ca9phoenix · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:24

moss said:
That might have something to do with the tyres, a 2.5 mondeo would have no problem catching a cinq and they arent actually all that bad a car.

i'm being a bit harsh the 2.5 is only slightly lower powered than my car but they carry so much weight it makes then a bit sluggish and unganely... so i'm reliably informed...

needmorespeed · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:26

ca9phoenix said:
i'm being a bit harsh the 2.5 is only slightly lower powered than my car but they carry so much weight it makes then a bit sluggish and unganely... so i'm reliably informed...

mk2 or 3 Because i wouldn't call my MK2 V6 sluggish also depends on if it an auto or manual as the 2.5 auto is slower then a 2.0 manual

moss · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:27

ca9phoenix said:
hartside's my old neck of the woods (alston) i'd rather they were there on R1's might lower the death toll on that road!

Nah, everyone was still flying around as usual, just slowed down when they saw the cops, who wernt hanging around themselves tbh

Trick · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:29

I want one of these!

ca9phoenix · 31 Oct 2006 at 17:30

needmorespeed said:
mk2 or 3 Because i wouldn't call my MK2 V6 sluggish also depends on if it an auto or manual as the 2.5 auto is slower then a 2.0 manual

there mainly mk 2's theyv'e moved over to st-dtci's now but there's constantly the weight of two people in the boot... i am comparing it with 3.2 omega's and T5's mind you the other trafic cars and not comparing them to the now 1.6d estate focuses (foci?!?)

shrek2 · 31 Oct 2006 at 18:06

I never knew some police forces had evos. Christ.

Hawk Tuah · 31 Oct 2006 at 18:43

shrek2 said:
I never knew some police forces had evos. Christ.

They're all unmarked Scooby's and Skoda VRS's round here.

Trinity · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:06

Sorry Fox, in police spec that thing will catch most motorbikes as well as carrying the best part of 300kgs in its ass!

They get sent to specialist tuners who modify pretty much everything. This will see the plus side of 170mph and will hit 60 in around 3-4 seconds at full chat.

Courtenay used to have the contract of fettling the Vectra GSi Cop motors and these flew!

Lopéz · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:10

Trinity said:
They get sent to specialist tuners who modify pretty much everything. This will see the plus side of 170mph and will hit 60 in around 3-4 seconds at full chat.

Do you have a reliable source for that? It doesn't seem particularly likely to me.

Firestar_3x · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:13

Lopéz said:
It doesn't seem particularly likely to me.

Total and utter myth, ppl like the think police cars are super tuned and are not stock factory cars, most cop cars won't get close to 155 never mind 170.

Trinity · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:14

Lopéz said:
Do you have a reliable source for that? It doesn't seem particularly likely to me.

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/pdf/brochures/PoliceCarRangeBrochureUK2002.pdf

Note the 'Reinforced Police Spec chassis' amongst other things. I have other links, but have to pop out now so will post later

The_Dark_Side · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:15

Trinity said:
Sorry Fox, in police spec that thing will catch most motorbikes as well as carrying the best part of 300kgs in its ass!

They get sent to specialist tuners who modify pretty much everything. This will see the plus side of 170mph and will hit 60 in around 3-4 seconds at full chat.

Courtenay used to have the contract of fettling the Vectra GSi Cop motors and these flew!

3-4 seconds?
ho ho
so we're looking at somewhere in the region of 450 bhp?
not a cat in hells chance.
police forces are 100% accountable for every quid that goes through their coffers.
if you really think they run fire breathing traffic cars then you are sorely mistaken.
even the Cosworths, which let's be honest were easily THE most tuneable traffic car ever, were standard.

Trinity · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:17

The_Dark_Side said:
3-4 seconds?
ho ho
so we're looking at somewhere in the region of 450 bhp?
not a cat in hells chance.
police forces are 100% accountable for every quid that goes through their coffers.
if you really think they run fire breathing traffic cars then you are sorely mistaken.
even the Cosworths, which let's be honest were easily THE most tuneable ever, were standard.

So the police reinforced chassis is imaginary then. Oh well

They also have rather imaginative gearboxes which makes for some impressive sprints. 0-100 in the above example comes round in 14seconds fully laden

The_Dark_Side · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:20

Trinity said:
So the police reinforced chassis is imaginary then. Oh well

last time i checked chassis reinforcement would slow the car down, not speed it up.
of course there are differences but these are minor and not the major mods you suggest.
the ARV's have slight power increases as they need to compensate for the weight of the ballistic shielding but the ordinary traffic cars run a standard power output..

The_Dark_Side · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:21

Trinity said:
0-100 in the above example comes round in 14seconds fully laden

talk about peaky power delivery.
0-60 in 3/4 seconds then another 10 seconds to add 40mph to that.

Trinity · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:22

The_Dark_Side said:
last time i checked chassis reinforcement would slow the car down, not speed it up.
of course there are differences but these are minor and not the major mods you suggest.
the ARV's have slight power increases as they need to compensate for the weight of the ballistic shielding but the ordinary traffic cars run a standard power output..

250bhp in standard trim is not to be sniffed at though. I remember a few years back an article on Courtenay and they had easily achieved the Vectra traffic cars a sub 12 second 1/4 mile.

The_Dark_Side · 31 Oct 2006 at 19:22

Trinity said:
250bhp in standard trim is not to be sniffed at though. I remember a few years back an article on Courtenay and they had easily achieved the Vectra traffic cars a sub 12 second 1/4 mile.

acheived and what the force run daily are 2 different things.