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Oxide Developer: “NVIDIA Was Putting Pressure On Us To Disable Certain Settings In The Benchmark”

People who defend either side to the death confuse me. Here is how to solve the debate;

When the first DX12 game comes along that you want to play, try it out. If you get performance/settings you are happy with, stay as you are. If you don't - buy a card that gives you the performance you want at the price you can afford. IGNORE THE COLOUR!!!?!?~@#'

Buying/paying more from the same company blindly just because is moronic.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
But the problem is nether of us have segment to segment sales breakdowns either,so ultimately you are only looking at an average of all segments.

Plus its a card shipment figure,not even an actual marketshare metric.
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I never said it was necessarily a completely accurate figure but it is still far better than a he said she said. It'll be in the ball park.

And also, as long as it's measuring the same thing over time the trend will at least translate to actual market share.
 
Rusty0611 said:
I never said it was necessarily a completely accurate figure but it is still far better than a he said she said. It'll be in the ball park.

And also, as long as it's measuring the same thing over time the trend will at least translate to actual market share.
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Historically Nvidia has mostly tended to have the larger installed user base anyway AFAIK,and their marketshare is decreasing.

But,problem is we don't know what the ballpark is unless we look at the actually breakdown of figures for sales and actual total installed userbase. How many are low end cards?? High end cards??
How many replaced by IGPs? How many people just sitting on what they have??

It could be that you are right.

This is another thing - look at the most popular games like WoW,DOTA2,LoL and Minecraft - they don't need an R9 290,GTX780 or GTX970 to run at reasonable settings.

Much older cards like GTX660,HD7870,GTX760,etc are still perfectly acceptable for the job even if a few settings need to be reduced.

Heck,even modern IGPs could probably be fine for LOL and DOTA2.

Look at the HD5000 series - AMD sold loads of them to gamers when Nvidia had no answer for at least six months ,and even though Nvidia marketshare went down,it was still quite high and I expect it was OEM sales which helped keep things more on the Nvidia side. One of the Gigabyte reps even said they suspected the 8400GS and its rebadges were probably the biggest selling cards they have ever made,and they were certainly common at the time.

Maybe in the full JPR report there might be actual numbers??
 
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BubbySoup said:
People who defend either side to the death confuse me. Here is how to solve the debate;

When the first DX12 game comes along that you want to play, try it out. If you get performance/settings you are happy with, stay as you are. If you don't - buy a card that gives you the performance you want at the price you can afford. IGNORE THE COLOUR!!!?!?~@#'

Buying/paying more from the same company blindly just because is moronic.
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Agreed, makes sense to buy the best available hardware within your budget at the time. Purely buying on brand seems weird to me, but some people do this. Each to their own.

Even with AMD's DX12 advantage, it makes little difference in the real world as 99.99% of games are older DX. I.e the 980 Ti is best hardware still, and start from cheaper than AMD's Fury X.

By the time DX12 games are plentiful, I imagine Nvidia will have much faster hardware than Maxwell, and people will be looking to upgrade anyway.

So imho it still makes sense to go Green atm. When AMD has performance advantage across many current titles, that's when I would consider switching.

I do think AMD offer awesome longevity to their cards, and if current AMD users get more use out of their current cards even with DX12 lands than it shows AMD looking after their consumer base. Even better if they could take back the performance crown though. Next time AMD plz.
 
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