P & O Ferries

gailjon said:
'Entitled'? Wow, asking for minimum wage to work in the UK market is hardly 'entitled' is it?
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They aren't working in the UK market. They are working on a ship that goes country to country. They'll get full board/fed/watered. They'll then get paid to return to wherever they came from.

The Brits do it to seek high salaries on mega yachts.

Uther said:
Do you consider yourself an 'entitled Brit' and would you be happy on £5,50 an hour?

The CEO and the company are a disgrace and should be crucified.
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The severance packages they got were enormous indicating inflated salaries. They were paid for every hour they were simply present - whether they were working or not. Most of the seafaring world moved away from this model decades ago because paying people to do nothing isn't a good model.
 
dLockers said:
They aren't working in the UK market. They are working on a ship that goes country to country. They'll get full board/fed/watered. They'll then get paid to return to wherever they came from.

The Brits do it to seek high salaries on mega yachts.


The severance packages they got were enormous indicating inflated salaries. They were paid for every hour they were simply present - whether they were working or not. Most of the seafaring world moved away from this model decades ago because paying people to do nothing isn't a good model.
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Are you on more or less than their salary, and if so do you feel jealous or just want them to be on less than you?
P & O worker £36000 a year
P & O ceo £325000 a year.
And it's the workers that are 'entitled Brits'

What is it with this race to the bottom that Brits love so much.
 
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Uther said:
Are you on more or less than their salary, and if so do you feel jealous or just want them to be on less than you?
What is it with this race to the bottom that Brits love so much.
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It is a global economy. Brits who do seafaring either get jammy gigs like P&O (now over) or go abroad and provide silver service on mega yachts.

Unfortunately for the vastly experienced Bangladeshis they can either do £1 an hour in Bengal or work for £5.50 in a cushy safe environment on P&O, get a jolly to the UK/France, full board - and return home as relative millionaires.

Don't be mad at P&O, this is what globalisation does.

Just wait for the India's to get sick and tired of the crap we've outsourced... oh wait they already are. Off to the Philippines we go!
 
Just seeing on the news that the head of the company admitted he knowingly broke the law to do it, and would do it again.

Which should mean that the company gets dealt with in the harshest manner possible, and if at all possible he should be held personally responsible not just some fine or some low level flunky getting the axe.
 
dLockers said:
It is a global economy. Brits who do seafaring either get jammy gigs like P&O (now over) or go abroad and provide silver service on mega yachts.

Unfortunately for the vastly experienced Bangladeshis they can either do £1 an hour in Bengal or work for £5.50 in a cushy safe environment on P&O, get a jolly to the UK/France, full board - and return home as relative millionaires.

Don't be mad at P&O, this is what globalisation does.

Just wait for the India's to get sick and tired of the crap we've outsourced... oh wait they already are. Off to the Philippines we go!
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I heard that on the Jeremy Vine show yesterday lunchtime on Radio 2. Some people on those super yachts are getting £15,000 a week tax free and it can be a crew of up to 60 people.

Jeremy Vine was shocked. He nearly fumbled when he heard that from a few callers that worked for some high profile people on these super yachts.
 
V F said:
I heard that on the Jeremy Vine show yesterday lunchtime on Radio 2. Some people on those super yachts are getting £15,000 a week tax free and it can be a crew of up to 60 people.

Jeremy Vine was shocked. He nearly fumbled when he heard that from a few callers that worked for some high profile people on these super yachts.
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My wife used to recruit for them. Super lucrative (for the people who take the roles). Her salary was aweful because the company played on the perks like going to Monaco/Miami all the time.
 
Werewolf said:
Just seeing on the news that the head of the company admitted he knowingly broke the law to do it, and would do it again.

Which should mean that the company gets dealt with in the harshest manner possible, and if at all possible he should be held personally responsible not just some fine or some low level flunky getting the axe.
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Personally responsible, isn't going to happen.

The only law it sounds they broke is that they didn't consult a union, which is where the extra bump in pay comes in. In terms of notice to government, BBC is suggesting some think they may of broken it, some think they haven't (which P&O suggest also).

Did we ever figure out if they are under UK employment law or somewhere else?
 
dLockers said:
paying people to do nothing isn't a good model.
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Can’t argue with your logic, but there are times when you can be paid for doing nothing without trying.
e.g., If I was at Heathrow in my taxi and the onboard computer monitor offered me an account trip from the airport, I would park in the special “Radio Taxis” pick up rank situated at each terminal, then at 10 minutes after the booked time I could engage the meter and wait, with the passenger’s name on a board in the side window.
There were times when the passenger was held up in passport control, immigration, or luggage retrieval and I’ve had as much as thirty odd quid on the clock by the time the passenger opened the door and got in.
If his destination was somewhere in The City, I might have run up £80 or £90 on arrival at Finsbury Sq.
A 12.5% gratuity was added to most account work, so one job per day like that was enough for me.
 
Jean-F said:
Can’t argue with your logic, but there are times when you can be paid for doing nothing without trying.
e.g., If I was at Heathrow in my taxi and the onboard computer monitor offered me an account trip from the airport, I would park in the special “Radio Taxis” pick up rank situated at each terminal, then at 10 minutes after the booked time I could engage the meter and wait, with the passenger’s name on a board in the side window.
There were times when the passenger was held up in passport control, immigration, or luggage retrieval and I’ve had as much as thirty odd quid on the clock by the time the passenger opened the door and got in.
If his destination was somewhere in The City, I might have run up £80 or £90 on arrival at Finsbury Sq.
A 12.5% gratuity was added to most account work, so one job per day like that was enough for me.
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This is basically where all the money is paid in the logistics industry as well. Get paid while waiting hours to be tipped.
 
dLockers said:
They aren't working in the UK market. They are working on a ship that goes country to country. They'll get full board/fed/watered. They'll then get paid to return to wherever they came from.

The Brits do it to seek high salaries on mega yachts.


The severance packages they got were enormous indicating inflated salaries. They were paid for every hour they were simply present - whether they were working or not. Most of the seafaring world moved away from this model decades ago because paying people to do nothing isn't a good model.
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So what happens when the wages are literally impossible for a Brit to live on? How will they seek high salaries on mega yachts if they cannot get any experience beyond being in the Royal Navy?
 
Uther said:
Are you on more or less than their salary, and if so do you feel jealous or just want them to be on less than you?
P & O worker £36000 a year
P & O ceo £325000 a year.
And it's the workers that are 'entitled Brits'

What is it with this race to the bottom that Brits love so much.
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The people who support the race to the bottom have already got theirs. "**** you got mine" attitude is rife in the UK.
 
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