Jono, some people are completely blinkered in their like/dislike for a particular driver.
Some people on this forum will still tell you that Vettel is nothing special and that he has got lucky in every single race. This, despite every single pundit on the telly, stating without question, that he is the real deal and one of the most talented drivers ever to have raced in F1.
BBC recently did a top driver count-down. I think they ranked Vettel in the top 10 all time...at the age of 25! Yes...you read that right. I don't agree with this ranking, but they rate Vettel extremely highly.
In 3 seasons when Hamilton and Button drove together, Hamilton led the WDC 2-1. This is a fact, not opinion. Also note that Mercedes offered big money to Hamilton...not Button...to join them in 2013. They feel that they need a top class driver and for whatever reason, they chose Hamilton. McLaren fought pretty hard to keep Hamilton. Even after he had signed for Merc, Whitmarsh was making bitter comments in the press, stating that Hamilton has made the wrong choice.
Make of this what you will.
The FACTS which Jono8 listed in an earlier post are pretty conclusive and damning. Notice that the Button fans are unwilling to break down Jono's factual stats...because they can't. Stats are the only thing which can be used to create an argument for/against the credentials of a sports person. For drivers, we look at number poles, fastest laps, points, race wins, titles, etc. The rest is all supposition and opinion (which carries less weight).
Right now Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso are the big 3. No other driver, including Button, comes into it.
2011, IMO, Buttons best ever season. And Canada 2011, was Button's best ever race.
Button and his cronies, comment on his 2011 Canadian performance here.
Some people on this forum will still tell you that Vettel is nothing special and that he has got lucky in every single race. This, despite every single pundit on the telly, stating without question, that he is the real deal and one of the most talented drivers ever to have raced in F1.
BBC recently did a top driver count-down. I think they ranked Vettel in the top 10 all time...at the age of 25! Yes...you read that right. I don't agree with this ranking, but they rate Vettel extremely highly.
In 3 seasons when Hamilton and Button drove together, Hamilton led the WDC 2-1. This is a fact, not opinion. Also note that Mercedes offered big money to Hamilton...not Button...to join them in 2013. They feel that they need a top class driver and for whatever reason, they chose Hamilton. McLaren fought pretty hard to keep Hamilton. Even after he had signed for Merc, Whitmarsh was making bitter comments in the press, stating that Hamilton has made the wrong choice.
Make of this what you will.
The FACTS which Jono8 listed in an earlier post are pretty conclusive and damning. Notice that the Button fans are unwilling to break down Jono's factual stats...because they can't. Stats are the only thing which can be used to create an argument for/against the credentials of a sports person. For drivers, we look at number poles, fastest laps, points, race wins, titles, etc. The rest is all supposition and opinion (which carries less weight).
Right now Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso are the big 3. No other driver, including Button, comes into it.
2011, IMO, Buttons best ever season. And Canada 2011, was Button's best ever race.
Button and his cronies, comment on his 2011 Canadian performance here.
It all seems very messy.
