Parenting question: Crying newborn

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We have a new born baby, only 10 days old at the moment. Thing is he will not settle anywhere other than in our arms. Putting him in his Moses basket results in constant screaming.

We know he's been fed, is clean and isn't too hot or cold, in short he just wants a fuss and some attention.

My opinion is that providing he is clean, not hungry and as far as we can tell not in pain, we should let him cry it out and get himself off to sleep. My fear is that constant picking up whilst crying will create a pattern and we'll have problems further down the line at 6 months.

My partner thinks this is a little too extreme for a 10 day old baby and that we should pick him up and give him a cuddle and sooth him back to sleep.

Neither of us are sure which option is correct so I'm looking for the experiences of any parents on the board who have had similar situations. Am I being too extreme given he is only 10 days old?
 
I know you won't think this is a medical thread but it is in effect. This should be discussed with your midwife not the members of OcUK who can't see the neonate and determine whether there is a reason for the crying.

Good luck and all but we aren't the right people here.
 
Welcome to parenthood.

We had the same thing for 3 months solid. Crying 95% of the time when awake. Crying when we put him to sleep. Crying all the time basically.

Every midwife, relative, friend, book suggested a different method for pacifying him - everyone had a really good idea that had worked for them of someone they knew. Nothing worked for us..... nothing. People close to us even started saying we should take him to a specialist as this wasn't normal.

Then all of a sudden it stopped around 10-12 weeks old - just as we were at the end of our tethers and about to just crack up completely (as we had no one to help with babysitting or looking after him for an hour or so) - When he reached 3-4 months and older - he cried less than most - slept all the way through the night and was a joy to bring up - he was less work than 95% of other kids his age from 3 months onwards.

Funnily enough, our second kid was completely different - he cried once/twice in 6 months (apart from when he was hungry) - then at 6 months decided to start crying all the time and wake up 2-3 times a night.
 
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I would say to give him a little time to settle if you are satisfied that there is nothing else wrong. Don't just leave him endlessly to fall asleep. The problem is that it will take no time at all for him to work out that crying will get him picked up, and that is a very hard habit to break if you leave it.
 
When you say won't settle, do you mean won't sleep, or just needs holding to get to sleep? If the latter, that's perfectly normal, just hold them until they go to sleep and then put to bed, consider if breastfeeding that the man stands a far better chance of successfully settling than the woman because they don't smell of dinner.

Realistically, children won't start settling themselves for a good few months.
 
There are two clear schools of thought for babies: let them cry - or hold them.

After much research and soul-searching we opted for the hold them option. Newborns especially are straight out of a lovely warm and noisy womb: in my opinion they need cuddling and skin-contact, they need to hear your heartbeats and voice, and if they are not happy, leaving them to cry is uncool, man.

This route requires a great deal more work, though, which is why many parents go for Gina Ford stuff and controlled crying.

My eldest was like yours, and we held her all the time which was very hard work, but she has grown up to be very confident and very brave when she's ill. She knows we are always there for her and will put her first. Another child I know very well, of the same age, closely-related, was brought up with controlled crying. He still has a comfort blanket and is a very poor patient. Not all kids are the same, but make of that what you will.
 
When you say won't settle, do you mean won't sleep, or just needs holding to get to sleep? If the latter, that's perfectly normal, just hold them until they go to sleep and then put to bed, consider if breastfeeding that the man stands a far better chance of successfully settling than the woman because they don't smell of dinner.

Realistically, children won't start settling themselves for a good few months.


As a farther of 4, I agree with this.
 
When you say won't settle, do you mean won't sleep, or just needs holding to get to sleep? If the latter, that's perfectly normal, just hold them until they go to sleep and then put to bed, consider if breastfeeding that the man stands a far better chance of successfully settling than the woman because they don't smell of dinner.

Realistically, children won't start settling themselves for a good few months.

Thanks all for the advice.

I should clarify, he seems to sleep fine through the night (obviously wakes for feeds and nappy changes but goes back to sleep pretty much straight away).

Its more in the day, after feeding when he is clearly tired. He will happily fall asleep in our arms then as soon as he is put in the basket seems to sense it and goes crazy.

Didn't think about this being classed as a medical thread so if so please close it down
 
We have a new born baby, only 10 days old at the moment. Thing is he will not settle anywhere other than in our arms. Putting him in his Moses basket results in constant screaming.

We know he's been fed, is clean and isn't too hot or cold, in short he just wants a fuss and some attention.

My opinion is that providing he is clean, not hungry and as far as we can tell not in pain, we should let him cry it out and get himself off to sleep. My fear is that constant picking up whilst crying will create a pattern and we'll have problems further down the line at 6 months.

My partner thinks this is a little too extreme for a 10 day old baby and that we should pick him up and give him a cuddle and sooth him back to sleep.

Neither of us are sure which option is correct so I'm looking for the experiences of any parents on the board who have had similar situations. Am I being too extreme given he is only 10 days old?

We have a 1 month old and this is pretty normal.

Don't believe the rubbish about spoiling babies or letting them cry themselves to sleep.

Babies are spoiled the day they pop out- they are used to 24-7 food and comfort. The outside world is extremely different to where they spent the last 9 months and is no where near as comforting. The first 3 months is often referred to the 4th trimester.

Newborns do not have the cognitive capacity to be manipulative or to do things to take advantage of you. They are simple machines, when they are hungry they fuss, when the are hot/cold they fuss, when they are uncomfortable they fuss. Preventing crushing in a newborn is not spoiling a baby- a baby cannot be spoiled.


It is completely natural the baby wants to be cuddled and in your arms because that is basically how it has spent the last 9 months, it is used to your body heat, your smell, your movements and to the pressure of the amniotic fluid. They are also used to be upside down and on their front, but you can never let a baby sleep it by itself on its front due to SIDS.



You just have to try slowly trying having the baby sleep alone for periods of a time and build up form there. Some key things are to swaddle the baby so it feels the same comfort as it was used to in the womb and the hands don't flail around and cause distress and injury (the sharp nails can easily cut their face :()
You can also try adding white noise and movement by using one of the baby rocker devices - this helps tremendously with ours. Babies are used to a near deafening world inside and white noise helps. They are used lots of movement as well. Your wife probably noticed that during pregnancy the baby never moved when she was up and about but when she lay in bed or sat on the sofa it would kick. That is because the movements made the baby sleep, the lack of movements would wake it up.

You also have to realize that for most babies their circadian rhythm is reversed- night time might be their most active period and daytime their quiet time. This just reflects the above - they are used to nighttime being when mum was still and they would move! You need to sleep when the baby sleeps, and that often means shorts periods of sleep frequently, spread throughout the day.

Over time they get more used to being by themselves for longer periods and learn to sleep more at night. Ours took around 2 weeks to do this, and it is still on and off. What we have now is that she is often much more wake an alert at times and so gets quickly bored of left alone.


Another thing that makes a baby fussy is gas. Burping is very important, and sometimes movement helps release a big fart or poop .

When they get older and then they can start to develop the ability to manipulate you and get spoiled- but newborns physically can't.
 
Didn't think about this being classed as a medical thread so if so please close it down

It isn't so much a Medical thread and we probably have 1000s of experienced parents on here but take advice from the professionals like Xordium suggests(who is a professional).
I see 100s of Maternity Notes and sometimes there isn't a simple solution with a crying baby.
 
At 10 days I wouldn't worry too much, I seem to remember holding her a lot to get her to sleep. It's all part of replicating the security and warmth of the womb I suppose. At night it's dark so perhaps that is enough for your little one to settle.

Welcome to parenthood, it's certainly a learning curve! (3 month old).

PS even now sometimes she screams when she is tired, after we've tried the normal things (wind, dummy etc) we leave her for 5 minutes and without fail she's gone off to sleep :)
 
Thanks all for the advice.

I should clarify, he seems to sleep fine through the night (obviously wakes for feeds and nappy changes but goes back to sleep pretty much straight away).

Its more in the day, after feeding when he is clearly tired. He will happily fall asleep in our arms then as soon as he is put in the basket seems to sense it and goes crazy.

Didn't think about this being classed as a medical thread so if so please close it down

You're fine, it's not a "medical thread" as no medical advice is being given out, it's just parenting skills.

Good luck with fatherhood and I hope the little nipper settles down soon! :)
 
Thanks all for the advice.

I should clarify, he seems to sleep fine through the night (obviously wakes for feeds and nappy changes but goes back to sleep pretty much straight away).

Its more in the day, after feeding when he is clearly tired. He will happily fall asleep in our arms then as soon as he is put in the basket seems to sense it and goes crazy.

Didn't think about this being classed as a medical thread so if so please close it down

Then you have a great baby and should count yourselves lucky, like us!

Our baby if normally ok at night but is often fussy in the day. Nothing you can do about but give plenty of love and attention. You will learn better methods of helping them sleep.


Have a look at a video called "happiest baby on the block". I have May reservations about it, but the techniques work. There are the 5 S's
Swaddle
Sooth (load whoosh or white noise)
Sideways
Sway (bounce/rock baby)
Suckle (use a dummy(

We use the first 4 to varying degrees.

Also babies have a very sensitive perception of motion. Bouncing our baby when seated is no where near as effective as swaying and bouncing when standing, even better is on a yoga ball, and best of all is walking up and down the stairs. Keeps you fit!


Another thing is they love the motion of driving and walking. If our baby is screaming I just put her in the car, drive to the park and go for a walk with her. She will be asleep within minutes normally - unless there is something the wants like food.


Babies also sometimes cry when they are tired but can't sleep. Best cure is to cuddle them and rock them to sleep then try and transfer them to your sleeping device.


Lastly, it is very unnatural for a worms to leave a crying baby. There are deep ingrained physiological and cognitive processes that effect the mother. Many mothers will start dropping milk when their baby cries- my wife does. They won't be able to rest peacefully for long knowing their baby is uncomfortable.
 
Most babies will react differently in this situation so you might need to try a few things to see if something works, would not let babies that young cry it out however.

With my sisters twins (about a month old) just a little contact (letting them grip a finger or rubbing their chest) is enough to settle them down after a bit unless they are uncomfortable. As someone said above if its really bad see the midwife.

EDIT: Within a month or so it will likely all change anyhow, most babies are unsettled for the first few weeks.
 
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