They're being diminished though. Look at what happens if you're a men-only golf club in Scotland?
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They're being diminished though. Look at what happens if you're a men-only golf club in Scotland?
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Make it profitable and move it to a tax haven -- job done. Though I must admit, the attraction of a total sausage-fest has lost its lustre over the years.
Never could see the point of them when I was younger, as I get older the more attractive they seem...
Not sure if serious but I was not advocating child cruelty, getting a babysitter
, the reverse in fact. A pub is not a place for young children.The only good reason for a loud rock band in a pub is to inhibit families with children.
Personally I prefer the peace and quiet like the OP.
Exactly that.
Yes, not jumping to their every tantrum is good parenting, but when teaching them that lesson, don't do it in public places where everybody else has to suffer it too.
If the kids can't behave, don't inflict them on others until they can. And if they throw an unanticipated ****-fit in a pub, restaurant, cinema, etc and won't calm down, remove the offending child or children until they do. Take them outside, sit on the csr with them, whatever it takes. Or, as a party, leave.
So according to that logic, the child will end up thinking its okay to scream in crowded public places to get what it wants. Which means it'll only be worse for you next time.
Just have some patience, you dont seem any better than the child tbf.
I remember the episode of One Foot in the Grave where it was joked about how Victor was just like a baby - bald and grizzles a lot!
BTW, I hope Richard Wilson is getting better...
So according to that logic, the child will end up thinking its okay to scream in crowded public places to get what it wants. Which means it'll only be worse for you next time.
Just have some patience, you dont seem any better than the child tbf.
Only if you're dumb enough to think there's only two options.
Well theres The Eagle/black eagle in manchester but i dont think its the kind of club your thinking
You need to educate yourself Tefal! Don't you know you cant compete on his intellectual level?
Am back baby!!!
On topic.......
My personal opinion is the smoking ban turned pubs into restaurants.
It should have been.
Working mans pub should be, smoking allowed no food or kids.
Family pub, food and kids allowed but no smoking.
Simple really but hey we don't live in a logical world so we have to deal with it.
On topic.......
My personal opinion is the smoking ban turned pubs into restaurants.
It should have been.
Working mans pub should be, smoking allowed no food or kids.
Family pub, food and kids allowed but no smoking.
Simple really but hey we don't live in a logical world so we have to deal with it.
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I feel your pain, only last week my Sister, her friend and I were having dinner at a pub and someone had let their two little sprogs loose to run around screaming and crawling around under people's tables. Some of the looks the parents were getting were evil, and more than person asked them to control their spawn.
Myself, I complained to the manager who apologised profusely and offered us free drinks and 25% off the bill.
Myself, I complained to the manager who apologised profusely and offered us free drinks and 25% off the bill.
You think kids that these menus are aimed at need more calories than an adult?
Am back baby!!!
On topic.......
My personal opinion is the smoking ban turned pubs into restaurants.
It should have been.
Working mans pub should be, smoking allowed no food or kids.
Family pub, food and kids allowed but no smoking.
Simple really but hey we don't live in a logical world so we have to deal with it.
Such a shame. One tiny swearie right at the end. https://youtu.be/BBl0sCFdJgQ
It does annoy me when parents think that their screaming offspring trump everyone else's right to a quiet life and don't deal with them. Screaming kids on trains or in restaurants and pubs are not fun for other people. 
I can appreciate it when parents are trying to do something about it - sometimes there's little you can do but those that willfully ignore their kids to the detriment of other peoples' enjoyment need a good kicking.
I can appreciate it when parents are trying to do something about it - sometimes there's little you can do but those that willfully ignore their kids to the detriment of other peoples' enjoyment need a good kicking.
My youngest is 3 and when she decides to have a wobble it's like trying to reason with a drunken midget.
You have to pick when and where to take them. These child friendly chain pubs are OK and if you go to them expecting a quiet evening you've made a mistake. I would agree with Tefals comment earlier, the children's menus are typically pretty awful. I generally just order pasta at these places as it most likely to be reasonably edible.
On the other hand, a mate has a restaurant on one of the local mariners. I will only take the little one early in the day or if she's slept. A tired and hungry 3 year old is very unlikely to behave.
It takes learning though. My eldest is 14 and I remember some meals out where she was truly shocking. You just have to learn how children behave and act accordingly.
I would also tend to disagree with it only bring chav families. They'll usually be the most vocal but often the liberal tree hugging parents have all but completely lost control because there's little or no punishment for bad behaviour.
You have to pick when and where to take them. These child friendly chain pubs are OK and if you go to them expecting a quiet evening you've made a mistake. I would agree with Tefals comment earlier, the children's menus are typically pretty awful. I generally just order pasta at these places as it most likely to be reasonably edible.
On the other hand, a mate has a restaurant on one of the local mariners. I will only take the little one early in the day or if she's slept. A tired and hungry 3 year old is very unlikely to behave.
It takes learning though. My eldest is 14 and I remember some meals out where she was truly shocking. You just have to learn how children behave and act accordingly.
I would also tend to disagree with it only bring chav families. They'll usually be the most vocal but often the liberal tree hugging parents have all but completely lost control because there's little or no punishment for bad behaviour.
Stop going to family pubs simple.
There are three types of pub in this world.
Man pubs
Lady pubs (as in a place you would happily take a date)
Family pubs (these have children's menus and possibly play equipment in the garden)
Although as a parent with a 4 year old it grinds my gears when parents let their kids go feral and run around.
There are three types of pub in this world.
Man pubs
Lady pubs (as in a place you would happily take a date)
Family pubs (these have children's menus and possibly play equipment in the garden)
Although as a parent with a 4 year old it grinds my gears when parents let their kids go feral and run around.
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This annoys the bejesus out of me too as my kids never caused the slightest annoyance or inconvenience to other patrons when they were that age.