PARVUM FURIA

Hi a quick question regarding the Bitspower monoblock for the X99E-ITX/ac. What fittings / threads are there on the top of the CPU and VRM/Chipset blocks? Are these push-in/Barb type that compress down when the Combining top-plate is screwed in place? Or are they threaded - if so, what size of fitting?

I am considering this MB but already have the Heatkiller IV block with ILM adapter, so I am looking at the VRM & Chipset block as a separate part, and all destined to go into a nCase M1. I know this would mean buying the Bitspower unit complete, but has anyone tested the performance of the Bitspower CPU block vs the Heatkiller IV?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mike
 
Thanks JR. That really helps - I'd not seen the channels that lined up as I as looking for something that matched the shape of inlet and outlet. The model helps there. What are you using to model in out of interest? I've just started having a play with SketchUp to help get a better idea of layout but it would be interesting to know what the proven software is!

It sounds like the pump seal is a complete non-issue given your benchmark results...but on a purely academic basis; could you (if it had proved necessary) use either gasket paper or liquid gasket (LS-X even) as it shouldn't give the pressure problems but should hopefully seal it and still be dismantleable. I've had cause to use it spot or two of LS-X and it doesn't seem to cause contamination issues and was removable from threads years later. Just a thought should it ever be necessary.
 
Hi a quick question regarding the Bitspower monoblock for the X99E-ITX/ac. What fittings / threads are there on the top of the CPU and VRM/Chipset blocks? Are these push-in/Barb type that compress down when the Combining top-plate is screwed in place? Or are they threaded - if so, what size of fitting?

I am considering this MB but already have the Heatkiller IV block with ILM adapter, so I am looking at the VRM & Chipset block as a separate part, and all destined to go into a nCase M1. I know this would mean buying the Bitspower unit complete, but has anyone tested the performance of the Bitspower CPU block vs the Heatkiller IV?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mike

Hi Mike, the Bitspower monoblock is assembled with push fittings. The CPU block is just standard Bitspower and the VRM/Chipset block again is just a plain simple two piece block. They each have two IG1/4" ports. The monoblock is supplied with 4 fittings exactly like the bottom half of d-plug mini fittings. They thread into the CPU and motherboard block and have bosses with external o-rings sticking up. The monoblock presses over the top, there are no threads in the bottom side of the monoblock just clean counterbores to push over the fittings.

I don't know how the Bitspower block compares to the Heatkiller IV but there is nothing preventing you from using the Bitspower VRM/Chipset block along with the Heatkiller. There isn't any branding on it either so it won't really look out of place, it's just a nice simple block.

Apart from having pretty dumb PWM fan control I can't fault the motherboard at all, even the overclocking is great, good layout particularly with the M.2 and memory parallel to the PCI. I'd definitely recommend that, it does feel like a quality product.

Thanks JR. That really helps - I'd not seen the channels that lined up as I as looking for something that matched the shape of inlet and outlet. The model helps there. What are you using to model in out of interest? I've just started having a play with SketchUp to help get a better idea of layout but it would be interesting to know what the proven software is!

It sounds like the pump seal is a complete non-issue given your benchmark results...but on a purely academic basis; could you (if it had proved necessary) use either gasket paper or liquid gasket (LS-X even) as it shouldn't give the pressure problems but should hopefully seal it and still be dismantleable. I've had cause to use it spot or two of LS-X and it doesn't seem to cause contamination issues and was removable from threads years later. Just a thought should it ever be necessary.

I use Solidworks, I could probably draw more complex things than we can cut, it exports nicely, the renders are reasonably good and it's just quite a complete logical package. Oh, for this loop the pump is still way too effective, it operates fine. It could be sealed with something for sure although I wouldn't as it would be very noticeable, even a little grease or oil really changes how the surface of the frosted looks.

This isn't the only way we can/have made pump tops, it was just an effective way to integrate it into this part being two 10mm layers rather than 15+5mm like MATE. If you wanted a custom dual DDC top, I wouldn't personally recommend doing it this way especially if you can work with much thicker acrylic. Bitspowers dual DDC top has a bridge inlaid between the two pumps, that actually seems like a great way to do it. Just figure out where the pumps need to be, i'm quite happy with our semi-spiral volute.

JR
 
Hi JR,

Thanks for the quick reply - that's all good news regarding the VRM/Chipset block. The photos on the Bitspower website didn't make the fittings used very clear.

I am presuming that ASrock and the other MB Manufacturers will be pushing out revised / updated X99 boards at Computex in 6 weeks' time to coincide with the Broadwell-E releases. It will be interesting to see what updates are introduced - it is probably too early for Intel Optane support in the X99 chipset, which would be a potentially (big) jump....

Thanks again,

Cheers,

Mike
 
Also, have you considered the Swiftech MCP-50X pump? Runs cooler than the DDC and is fairly quiet under load. Thermalbench did a review a while ago and it came up well against the established units.

One of these will be shoe-horned into a nCase M1 with ASrock board + a Pascal based card (probably the Titan based HBM-2 version, depending on length of the new GTX 1080/1070 Ref cards).

Cheers
 
Also, have you considered the Swiftech MCP-50X pump? Runs cooler than the DDC and is fairly quiet under load. Thermalbench did a review a while ago and it came up well against the established units.

One of these will be shoe-horned into a nCase M1 with ASrock board + a Pascal based card (probably the Titan based HBM-2 version, depending on length of the new GTX 1080/1070 Ref cards).

Cheers

I don't think we will see a new version of every X99 motherboard, or even a huge revision. The original boards can support the new CPU's with a BIOS update which ASRock have already released, just like Ivy-E on X79. I think there will be an occasional refresh for the popular ones that may add a few more M.2's or simple things to make them more competitive with Z170.

I did look at Swiftech's pumps however they all appear to be similar spec with a 1200-4500RPM operating speed over PWM, exactly the same as what I have now. The issue is any PWM below 87% on this board causes the pump to repetitively turn on and off so 4000RPM is realistically as slow as it goes.

So I will try to find a slower 6W DDC from an EK kit of some form and use that. One of my friends has a Predator I may steal that :D

JR
 
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This will be the last update before my project is submitted, but these aren't necessarily final photographs, so don't take it as the end. There are still some little open ends to take care of, maybe some more consideration to how it stands and definitely a better fitting riser cable (hence why it's not shown). However it is very much operational and running excellently, it has vastly exceeded my expectations of size and performance. I hope also you will appreciate why I didn't post assembled photo's last time! I hope you enjoy the confusion of figuring out how it all fits together without narration, hopefully by the end it will be clear. Sadly again I don't have the time to narrate everything out but if you have any questions feel free to fire them on here!

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Love it and will be interested to hear how you do with the marking of the project.

When you get the opportunity I would also like to see a full bench of what it can do.

Very different from pretty much everything else I've seen of late.
 
Now I can see all of it, I don't like it ;) :p

Definitely something to be proud of.

How it stands? A few options come to my (admittedly, creatively-challenged) mind:

1. Little acrylic feet to stand it upright. Much like on a Mo-Ra radiator. If only you knew somewhere that could mill acrylic... :D

2. You could - and this may defeat the point - 'complete' the case. By that, I mean use the main acrylic part as the side (or front, you're defining it!) and extend, even in skeleton-frame form, the sides so that it stands level. Completely enclosing it would probably detract from the looks but some frame completing a rectangle at the bottom would give it something to stand on and it you wanted to extend that upwards, it could give it some protection if necessary.

3. You could do a variant of 2 but make it desktop form-factor. This would mean the show-stopping bit is the top surface. This probably isn't great for showing off the bottom - and I'm assuming here that it's going to be shown for a while. You'd also need to build enough clearance in for the intake/exhaust of the rads.

I'd say somewhere between 1 and 2 off that list might be good. Any use?

You said questions. I've got one :D With the pump directly attached to the acrylic and no opportunity for decoupling the vibration, how loud does that make the pump? I ask for I am planning two and dislike noise :D
 
Absolutely brilliant, I love the custom waterblocks/piping routes you create in your projects as it looks far neater than bending tubing (Not that hard tubing isn't nice).

I wish I had the skills to produce something of this caliber as it looks stunning and is certainly worth the time and effort. :)

Great work as always :D
 
This is looking stunning man :) Awesome work. Gotta love the Bitspower styling that GPU block with the dragon logo looks awesome.

Worth looking at the OEM for Bitspower (Barrow) if you're wanting to save a bit on the fittings you'll never see. I recently bought a set for a new build, same amazing quality as Bitspower. No branding/logos but around 50% cheaper.
 
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