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Pascal Titan-X Launch
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Maybe it can't clock high enough to be memory bandwidth limited in gaming?
Both at stock clocks, the Titan XP has 21% higher relative memory bandwidth (as in 21% more per FLOP).
Soldato
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hate the fact when i see complaints about its high price...
specially when you see Nvidia's 12GB QUADRO K6000 listing for £4k. I think the last Gen Titan diluted the Titan's Gene Pool... yes this will sell a shed loads! just like the first generation thanks to its high FP64 count, playing Games is a Bonus.
Bit like seeing Performance cars now a days, bought to do to Waitrose and back and will never see the track in its life time lol
Ti will be for the gamers yet will will have a nice FP64 count aswell.
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specially when you see Nvidia's 12GB QUADRO K6000 listing for £4k. I think the last Gen Titan diluted the Titan's Gene Pool... yes this will sell a shed loads! just like the first generation thanks to its high FP64 count, playing Games is a Bonus.
Bit like seeing Performance cars now a days, bought to do to Waitrose and back and will never see the track in its life time lol
Ti will be for the gamers yet will will have a nice FP64 count aswell.
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Damn, Nvidia is being relentless. I honestly did not expect this card til early 2017, especially with a brand new process.
So I would guess they are going back to the Kepler Titan model. Titan X early on while AMD has absolutely nothing to counter with, then a 1080Ti early 2017 when Vega is expected to hit.
I wonder if this means that Nvidia are confident of getting Volta out by Fall of next year? Cant imagine they'd want to go the entire 2017 year without a new card lineup. That's.......gonna be interesting. If Volta is good, AMD may have to rely on refreshes and price drops by the end of the year like they did in 2014.
So I would guess they are going back to the Kepler Titan model. Titan X early on while AMD has absolutely nothing to counter with, then a 1080Ti early 2017 when Vega is expected to hit.
I wonder if this means that Nvidia are confident of getting Volta out by Fall of next year? Cant imagine they'd want to go the entire 2017 year without a new card lineup. That's.......gonna be interesting. If Volta is good, AMD may have to rely on refreshes and price drops by the end of the year like they did in 2014.
Since when have high end products, especially GPU's, ever worked like this?
Hang on, a comment on the guru3d article just made me think:
Why is this only 12GB for a Titan card? The 1080 and 1070 are both 8GB, so surely this means the 1080 Ti will be 12GB too (or even 16GB HBM2)?
Wouldn't it be VERY odd for the 1080 Ti to have the same (or more) memory than the Titan card? And surely the Ti couldn't have only 8GB.
Why is this only 12GB for a Titan card? The 1080 and 1070 are both 8GB, so surely this means the 1080 Ti will be 12GB too (or even 16GB HBM2)?
Wouldn't it be VERY odd for the 1080 Ti to have the same (or more) memory than the Titan card? And surely the Ti couldn't have only 8GB.
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My guess is what I've been saying all along, Having the memory alongside the gpu means it can't overclock well and Nvidia rely on that ability with gpu boost.
EDIT: With 480gb's a second available it doesn't really need HBM.
Another reason may simply be because they want it out on the market and going with HBM means a delay.
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Some have not even received their aftermarket 1080s on preorder and it's already been knocked off as the fastest
Doesn't compare at this price anyway but a 1080Ti under $900 should be more interesting.
Wish I could wait for 1080Ti but soon as I get my case which should be at most 1-2 weeks kind of need finalise set up while I have the money so to speak. Yeah I was considering the Titan X for exact reason you basically said SLI isn't even fully supported on big games shocked Doom still doesn't have that's a shame.
It's a flagship card.
Honestly, while the price is eye-watering, I think it's a *really* exciting card. Anytime the performance envelope gets pushed is great, but what's particularly interesting about this card is that it looks like it might be the first properly capable 4k/60fps card.
Single card 4k gaming is here.
Those clocks are really low. Looks like they're having a very hard time keeping it cool with the same old reference cooler. The same vapor chamber is having issues with the 1080, and the 250W Titan XP might be pushing it far too much.
Honestly I'm a little worried those low clocks mean it's not a huge jump over a 2Ghz 1080.
Then there's the fact that it has less CUDA cores than full P100, by a decent amount and is on a smaller die as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if next year we get a New New Titan X Black that's a full core with a better reference cooler, that also has better clocks.
Also the increase in price? Seems NVIDIA simply did raise the price on everything, and the new card came in where I expected. :/
My issue is the constant price raising. I paid less on launch day last year for my EVGA Superclocked 980Tis, than a 1080 does on launch and now.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new 1080Ti comes in at $900-950
Honestly I'm a little worried those low clocks mean it's not a huge jump over a 2Ghz 1080.
Then there's the fact that it has less CUDA cores than full P100, by a decent amount and is on a smaller die as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if next year we get a New New Titan X Black that's a full core with a better reference cooler, that also has better clocks.
Also the increase in price? Seems NVIDIA simply did raise the price on everything, and the new card came in where I expected. :/
Some have not even received their aftermarket 1080s on preorder and it's already been knocked off as the fastest
Doesn't compare at this price anyway but a 1080Ti under $900 should be more interesting.
My issue is the constant price raising. I paid less on launch day last year for my EVGA Superclocked 980Tis, than a 1080 does on launch and now.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new 1080Ti comes in at $900-950
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Soldato
Faster and faster, but with no real innovation. AMD can't seem to keep up with the speed, but at least they are trying to bring new tech that actually improves things.
I remember when Nvidia came on the market and they were the game changer with T&L. Now all they are doing is making faster cards at extreme prices.
Not saying their stuff is good, but with all the money they make, why aren't they pushing the boundaries?
I remember when Nvidia came on the market and they were the game changer with T&L. Now all they are doing is making faster cards at extreme prices.
Not saying their stuff is good, but with all the money they make, why aren't they pushing the boundaries?
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The TDP has gone up a lot more than the core count so yes I think there could be a cooling problem reducing efficiency.
No, not really. It wouldn't be in line with what they did with previous Titans, but I certainly wouldn't call it 'very odd'.
It certainly does look like it. The normal Titan X had throttling issues under heavy load wit the reference cooler. They only really shone under water.
Seems the new card looks more prone to heat issues, so "if" someone buys one, they really should stick a block on it.
Then again with a smaller die, and less cores; I'd rather wait and see if they pull another Titan Black at this state.
I was waiting for Big Pascal and Vega before getting a big new gpu, but hmmm. Not to convinced on this new Titan.
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Unless they sort out 4 way SLI for Pascal NVidia could find themselves in a position where the old TXs beat out the new ones.
4 against 2 sure but that's not really a problem and to be expected, What's the percentage of 3 and 4 way gamers. I'd lay money on it being 0.something. The case is the new double layered SLi offers a better experience, on top of that Pascal has distinct advantages in VR and Titan X owners are the sort of gamers that will be buying VR headsets so they've got it's superiority pretty much covered.
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inb4 everyone sells their 1080 for one of these
