Password managers

HACO · 2 Apr 2022 at 10:04

Bouton Aide said:
Not if you get it free.

I'm not that lucky I'm afraid.

Deleted member 77746 · 2 Apr 2022 at 10:08

HACO said:
I'm not that lucky I'm afraid.

You realise Google and Amazon give everyone a free tier right?

HACO · 2 Apr 2022 at 10:16

Bouton Aide said:
You realise Google and Amazon give everyone a free tier right?

Yes, but I use them for other stuff

And I said self-hosting costs you in time and/or money, setting it up on an AWS/GCP instance, monitoring, upgrading and maintaining it, backing it up regularly, etc costs you in time even if it's on free tiers.

Most people never need to bother with any of this. They can just open a Bitwarden account and start using it.

ChrisD. · 2 Apr 2022 at 10:17

HACO said:
And I said self-hosting costs you in time and/or money

Very true, sometimes it's nice to pay a small fee to have all of that hassle taken away from you.

HACO · 2 Apr 2022 at 10:18

ChrisD. said:
Very true, sometimes it's nice to pay a small fee to have all of that hassle taken away from you.

You don't need to pay anything. Bitwarden's free account has everything 99% of people would ever need including syncing with unlimited devices.

Deleted member 77746 · 2 Apr 2022 at 10:27

HACO said:
Yes, but I use them for other stuff

And I said self-hosting costs you in time and/or money, setting it up on an AWS/GCP instance, monitoring, upgrading and maintaining it, backing it up regularly, etc costs you in time even if it's on free tiers.

Most people never need to bother with any of this. They can just open a Bitwarden account and start using it.

True..

HACO said:
You don't need to pay anything. Bitwarden's free account has everything 99% of people would ever need including syncing with unlimited devices.

Indeed. True again.

Ice Tea · 2 Apr 2022 at 11:20

Is Bitwarden still a bit flaky with some sites, i've not tried it for a few years?

HACO · 2 Apr 2022 at 11:29

Ice Tea said:
Is Bitwarden still a bit flaky with some sites, i've not tried it for a few years?

Browser extension still not as good as Lastpass or 1password.

Ice Tea · 2 Apr 2022 at 12:19

HACO said:
Browser extension still not as good as Lastpass or 1password.

Cheers Dude, One of the problems with solo projects is slow development.

uvarvu · 2 Apr 2022 at 12:34

HACO said:
Browser extension still not as good as Lastpass or 1password.

And there’s no iOS or iPadOS extension either.

HACO · 2 Apr 2022 at 12:36

Ice Tea said:
Cheers Dude, One of the problems with solo projects is slow development.

It's not a solo project, last I heard they have about 100 employees including dev team of 25.

uvarvu said:
And there’s no iOS or iPadOS extension either.

The app integrates with iOS/iPadOS just like any password manager.

uvarvu · 2 Apr 2022 at 12:41

HACO said:
The app integrates with iOS/iPadOS just like any password manager.

1Password goes a bit further. If you go into your safari settings and click extensions you’ll be able to enable iPassword from there. It will give you full autocomplete rather than putting MFA codes on the clipboard and you can also create passwords direct from the browser.

HACO · 2 Apr 2022 at 12:43

uvarvu said:
1Password goes a bit further. If you go into your safari settings and click extensions you’ll be able to enable iPassword from there. It will give you full autocomplete rather than putting MFA codes on the clipboard and you can also create passwords direct from the browser.

Good to know, basic integration also allows that though (you can bring up the PW manager's overlay window, create credentials and autocomplete from there). Nothing beats 1Password's integration with iOS though.

Ice Tea · 2 Apr 2022 at 12:46

HACO said:
It's not a solo project, last I heard they have about 100 employees including dev team of 25.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/g82dk9/status_of_bitwarden_weekly_users_of_bitwarden/

Yeah, since i posted i found the above reddit link and he stopped solo development a couple of years ago so that should improve the project.

Feek · 2 Apr 2022 at 23:05

uvarvu said:
He’s right as well. Found 1Password to very intuitive and it’a really polished.

Love it. Very good piece about 1Password.

I've been using it since I first moved over to a Mac back in 2008, it was one of the first pieces of software I bought for the Mac.

ChrisD. · 2 Apr 2022 at 23:07

HACO said:
You don't need to pay anything. Bitwarden's free account has everything 99% of people would ever need including syncing with unlimited devices.

Ah, I got the wrong end of the stick.

ecksmen · 3 Apr 2022 at 16:04

uvarvu said:
And there’s no iOS or iPadOS extension either.

Are you aware of this for Bitwarden? https://bitwarden.com/help/auto-fill-ios/

uvarvu · 3 Apr 2022 at 17:41

ecksmen said:
Are you aware of this for Bitwarden? https://bitwarden.com/help/auto-fill-ios/

Nope not sure what that is but if you look at the app store and compare the two you’ll see for 1Password the store indicates an extension is available. There is no such indication for Bitwarden.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/1password-password-manager/id568903335
vs
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/bitwarden-password-manager/id1137397744

ecksmen · 3 Apr 2022 at 19:28

uvarvu said:
Nope not sure what that is

Its a link to Bitwardens documentation that shows how the bitwarden application integrates via the autocomplete of the on screen keyboard.

HACO · 3 Apr 2022 at 19:41

ecksmen said:
Its a link to Bitwardens documentation that shows how the bitwarden application integrates via the autocomplete of the on screen keyboard.

What Bitwarden doesn't support (anymore) is the legacy Safari extension, which used to be the go-to method for password managers. 1password still does support that. Not sure how relevant that is anymore.