Payraise.. how much do you expect? how much did you get?

BennoUK said:
Got 8% last contract renewal from the client. But my agent showed his hand during negotiations so ill be having 3.5% from his piece of the pie at the next contract renewal regardless of what the client offers.
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Kinda curious what you do to have an agent
 
danlightbulb said:
I'm skeptical about claims of labour shortage. A few years ago there was meant to be a shortage of engineers/STEM qualified people. I never saw any more jobs around as a result or higher wages being offered on vacancies as a result.
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Were you looking for jobs requiring STEM expertise, did you keep track of statistics before and after?, Did you perhpas consder multi-nationals simply hired in other parts of thw world due to shortages in the UK? You make a lot of claims but haven't provided any evidence.

danlightbulb said:
Then a couple of years ago a shortage of HGV drivers. Same deal, where were all the offers of training to try and recruit new people?
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Logistics firms needed qualified drivers at the time , they did not have a need to train. And indeed, logistics firms are often unrelated to training and training capacity is limited by capacity. It is much easier to siply hire a qualified driver from any country that has freedom of movement. HGV driver shortages were a uniquely British problem due to labour shortages

danlightbulb said:
Apparently now there is a shortage of air traffic controllers. Where are the retraining opportunities for adults?
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Are you searching for ATC training, how do you know there are not active campaigns to increase training? How does training resolve a curretn labour shortage?

danlightbulb said:
Businesses in this country expect people to fall into their laps instead of investing in training and skills.
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ehh, that is the same in every country on the planet. Companies are in the business of making profit to give to share holders, they are not educational institutes and have no legal or moral reuirment to provide that. It is obviously far more economical not to pay to train people but to instantly hire qualified staff. Moreover, if there is a current skilled labour shortage then training does absolutely nothing to solve the problem. tHe only solution is to have a free market on labour so companies can fulfil roles instantly and maximize productivity. Why on earth do you think companies should ahve to do anything other than hiring people to do the work that is required to produce the products that they can sell?
 
just been told that I'm getting a 4.2% payrise and a 7.25% bonus... less than last year but considering the amount of redundancies and future planned redundancies, it's better than the expected 3.75% that the union agreed.
less than last year on both the payraise and bonus but in this current market; my job is extremely well paid.
 
We were offered 4.5% this year however last year we were given a fluff up of 1% unconsolidated so in real terms the deal is only 3.5%

As the wages are considered low where I work compared to other similar businesses the results of a ballot were 98% rejecting the offer. Things are going to get interesting here in the near future I feel.
 
Haggisman said:
2%, private sector. Not impressed as I'm pretty sure that was at least partly influenced by some "poor performance" due to me working when I was ill.

Needless to say, next time I'll be spending a week playing video games if I have so much as a sniffle.
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This has now been coupled with wanting me back in the office 2 days a week.

So that's an extra 2 hours a week of "working" time commuting, and an extra £10/month in fuel, wear and tear etc on the car, plus probably need to increase the mileage allowance on my lease.

Youngest is also starting school in September, so would have to pay after school club at £8.50/day.

So at least £100/month actual pay cut, without taking into account the relative cut from the below inflation increase.

Been told the in-office days is a month "trial period" to start with, but if it goes on past that I'll be looking for something else. Been willing to accept the poor (quite frankly insulting) pay increases over the past few years as a trade off for the savings and convenience of working from home full time, but if that's no longer a factor then don't see any benefit to sticking around...
 
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Haggisman said:
This has now been coupled with wanting me back in the office 2 days a week.

So that's an extra 2 hours a week of "working" time commuting, and an extra £10/month in fuel, wear and tear etc on the car, plus probably need to increase the mileage allowance on my lease.

Youngest is also starting school in September, so would have to pay after school club at £8.50/day.

So at least £100/month actual pay cut, without taking into account the relative cut from the below inflation increase.

Been told the in-office days is a month "trial period" to start with, but if it goes on past that I'll be looking for something else. Been willing to accept the poor (quite frankly insulting) increases as a trade off for the savings and convenience of working from home full time, but if that's no longer a factor then don't see any benefit to sticking around...
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They are pretty flexable with me coming into work or not.. I'm one of the very few that have site to site vpn at home.
I'm meant to come in two days a week and they are monitoring for 3 days in two weeks.. but I come and go in when I please, I try to go at least a week not to take the ****.

I've major car issues at the moment, so they not expecting me in on the short term at all.. but I end up spending most of my days on a headset in remote meetings anyway.

My team is based at my location, but the ones that are in this country all go to an office down south, but I'm up north.. plus we have members of the team that are located in other parts of the world.. so even if all the uk staff are in one office, we would have to do remote meeting for the staff who are not in the UK... but normally I'm the only person that is in my team that's at this location.

on the flipslide, someone who's new role was based up north was living down south.. he wanted this new role which required physical onsite duties in the server room, to make the matter worst he moved up to Scotland.
He expected me to do his physical onsite duties for him, as I had the skillset and permissions to do what was required. I'm not even part of his division let alone team.. and If I were to travel to the office each time on call, who's going to do my job?
Anyway I told him to spin... and if you didn't want to or can't do that part of the job he needs to speak to his manager..
his reply was "I thought it would be easiler as you only live nearby..."
 
slinxy said:
on the flipslide, someone who's new role was based up north was living down south.. he wanted this new role which required physical onsite duties in the server room, to make the matter worst he moved up to Scotland.
He expected me to do his physical onsite duties for him, as I had the skillset and permissions to do what was required. I'm not even part of his division let alone team.. and If I were to travel to the office each time on call, who's going to do my job?
Anyway I told him to spin... and if you didn't want to or can't do that part of the job he needs to speak to his manager..
his reply was "I thought it would be easiler as you only live nearby..."
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That's different though - there's a physical aspect to that role which obviously can't be done remotely, and the guy is an idiot if he took the job expecting to be able to get out of that!

I'm 100% desktop based. I have a better setup at home than in the office (big screen, big desk, decent peripherals, no distractions). When I was in the office before, I would sit with noise cancelling headphones on 99% of the time, to drown out everyone else - I actually communicate more with my team now (on Discord) than before.

Looking at a few online calculators, my salary is effectively ~£5k down vs inflation since I started WFH - as I said, was willing to overlook that, as the flexibility and cost savings were worth it, but if those no longer exist...
 
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Haggisman said:
That's different though - there's a physical aspect to that role which obviously can't be done remotely, and the guy is an idiot if he took the job expecting to be able to get out of that!

I'm 100% desktop based. I have a better setup at home than in the office (big screen, big desk, decent peripherals, no distractions). When I was in the office before, I would sit with noise cancelling headphones on 99% of the time, to drown out everyone else - I actually communicate more with my team now (on Discord) than before.

Looking at a few online calculators, my salary is effectively ~£5k down vs inflation since I started WFH - as I said, was willing to overlook that, as the flexibility and cost savings were worth it, but if those no longer exist...
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yeah tell me about it... I have to lug three or at least two laptops back and forth.. I have 2 4k 28" monitors corner desk that's well setup, a 2K office chair at home.. a better jira headset with tounch screen operations, docking station..

my work, it's well setup but not as nice as home, we have 42" screens that are just big and curve but have poor resolutions and does my eyes in, raising desks (something I can't have at home, but I don't think many will take the weight of all the stuff on it).. but the chairs do my back in.. and the worst thing is that due to office desks layout (as in they added more desks) there's less space so they stopped the coffee trollies from being used and we have to get up and join a queue for a coffee now.
 
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