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PC Games Intel performance testing fake.

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Hardware Unboxed looks at PC Games Core 9000 games benchmarking.

PC Games published Intel paid canned results, they are fake.

Edit: i should explain what i mean by fake, the results published for the 2700X have been paid for by Intel, the performance figures for the 2700X are much lower than reality, at least in those that can be accurately reproduced.

Update 1: The company Intel paid for these results actually turned 4 of the cores on the 2700X off, effectively turning the CPU into a much lower end Ryzen 2400G.

Update 2: PC Games have updated the article, they have explained Hardware Unboxed initial findings but seemingly don't yet know about the fact that the 2700X had 4 of its cores disabled.

Still, good of them to follow up on it.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-core-i9-9900k-vs-amd-ryzen-7-2700x-gaming-benchmarks

 
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I think the main issue isn't that they are fake, its rather that there is no information on any test rigs and benchmark settings, and are released many days before the nda date, meaning it is advertising/propaganda dressed up as a review, and should be treated as advertising.
 
ChocoViennese said:
I think the main issue isn't that they are fake, its rather that there is no information on any test rigs and benchmark settings, and are released many days before the nda date, meaning it is advertising/propaganda dressed up as a review, and should be treated as advertising.
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The information is there, but it's up to you to find it.

Ram wasn't properly setup for Ryzen, that's the main culprit.
 
ChocoViennese said:
I think the main issue isn't that they are fake, its rather that there is no information on any test rigs and benchmark settings, and are released many days before the nda date, meaning it is advertising/propaganda dressed up as a review, and should be treated as advertising.
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Did you watch it all? the benchmarking methodology is clearly defined, they ran in game benchmarks with results that are way under what they should be for the 2700X.

These are Intel's figures and they have the 2700X performing way down on reality, they are just plain fake results deliberately designed to make the 2700X look a lot slower than it actually is.

These results are also published before the NDA is up, deliberately so the results cannot be disputed for a while.
 
humbug said:
Did you watch it all? they ran in game benchmarks with results that are way under what they should be for the 2700X.
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Yes I did thanks. I dispute the word fake. They were results, but not similar to other reviewers results using the CPUs that are not under NDA, suggesting the test is unfair rather than made up.
 
Imagine a marketing team using a best case scenario for their own product vs a worst case scenario for a competitor - Surely this has never happened in the entire history of man?

:rolleyes:
 
VincentHanna said:
Imagine a marketing team using a best case scenario for their own product vs a worst case scenario for a competitor - Surely this has never happened in the entire history of man?

:rolleyes:
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Its not just that, their results for the 2700X are much lower than reality, Steve does his own testing with some of the games they used and knew from that something was wrong, so he reproduced their test, and yes Steve scored much higher.

Their results are fake, made up.
 
All that Intel are doing is harming themselves with stunts like this, running a Ryzen on slow/loose memory is of course going to give it a huge penalty.
 
humbug said:
Its not just that, their results for the 2700X are much lower than reality, Steve does his own testing with some of the games they used and knew from that something was wrong, so he reproduced their test, and yes Steve scored much higher.

Their results are fake, made up.
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Again, not fake, the articles even use the term 'misleading', crying fake at something you dont like comes across as polemic. The test setup is here http://www.principledtechnologies.com/Intel/PC_gaming_processor_study_interim_1018.pdf. they are clearly results from an unfair test, 'fake' would be using figures when you hadnt carried out a test.
 
ChocoViennese said:
Again, not fake, the articles even use the term 'misleading', crying fake at something you dont like comes across as polemic. The test setup is here http://www.principledtechnologies.com/Intel/PC_gaming_processor_study_interim_1018.pdf. they are clearly results from an unfair test, 'fake' would be using figures when you hadnt carried out a test.
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No what he said was "garbage" while explaining the 2700X results they published are much lower than reality, you can argue 'word' semantics all you like they all describe the same fact that Intel's published results here are fake.
 
It's worse than that.

8. On AMD systems download and install the AMD Ryzen Master Utility.
a. Launch the utility, select Game mode, and click Apply.
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So they effectively turned off half of the 2700X's cores and tested it as a 4C/8T CPU...

Oh and the Intel CPU was ran with an expensive Noctua NH-U14S, while the 2700X used the stock cooler...
 
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