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PC Games Intel performance testing fake.

HeX said:
It's worse than that.



So they effectively turned off half of the 2700X's cores and tested it as a 4C/8T CPU...

Oh and the Intel CPU was ran with an expensive Noctua NH-U14S, while the 2700X used the stock cooler...
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That whole paid review is so cringey its unbelievable.. whats most damning though is Intel needs to stack the deck sooooo far into their advantage to push their product out, its laughable at best.

Ontop of this there will be mass shortage of these chips for the foreseeable future, probably well into next year, price is just going to go up further.

I wont be surprised if Intel share prices drop again off the back of this, i think this may actually backfire quite spectacularly for them, and they dont have a scapegoat this time, which in itself is actually a scapegoat as they can blame "clear lack of leadership due to no CEO" lol.

Sad thing is though, people are still climbing over each other to buy this junk, importing from the US, yes its cheaper, but at £500 its still junk, motherboard prices have gone up again. And on yes if you want to run that 9900k OC'd your not going to get much use out of your Z370 mobo if its a cheap one so yeah Z390 or nothing for you!

Intels main problem is they cant fight AMD with a price war.
 
HeX said:
It's worse than that.



So they effectively turned off half of the 2700X's cores and tested it as a 4C/8T CPU...

Oh and the Intel CPU was ran with an expensive Noctua NH-U14S, while the 2700X used the stock cooler...
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Wow ok....

It should be explained for those that don't know, running Gaming Mode in Ryzen Master turns off one of the two CCX's, so on whatever CPU you run it on you only have half the CPU cores, in this case 4, in my case 3, With SMT ofcorse, so 8 or 6 threads, vs 16 or in my case 12.
Its a stupid mode i don't know why Ryzen has it, its mainly for Threadripper to cut down inter-core latency, it makes no difference to performance on Ryzen, other than the effects of only having half the CPU cores.

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lol the shizzlestorm is just gathering, Hardware Unboxed has started this off, now watch tons of other sites follow suit jumping on the bandwagon ridiculing Intels nonsense.
 
NinjaCool said:
Intel's 9th Gen Core Gaming Benchmarks Flawed and Misleading
https://www.techpowerup.com/248355/intels-9th-gen-core-gaming-benchmarks-flawed-and-misleading

This flawed intel 9900K review is exploding all over the net!
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Good. With all the bad press Intel has gathered recently - and Ryzen doing to well, at least you'd assume we could have decent prices on the new CPUs, but nothing :/

To be fair this almost seems just a UK issue, in USA even the 8700k is still sold for reasonable prices.
 
Well European Intel prices have risen dramatically due to low supply, now it seem even before the 9 chips are released retailers have priced them above current inflated 8 chips.
 
I said a few weeks ago expect the 9900k to be £500-600, i said it would probably be £550, however given the short supply of Intel chips im not surprised its £600... They couldnt price it too low or they would just take sales from the HEDT stuff.
 
I'm amazed my cpu is now £499. it was about £380 when I won it. Factor in the cost of a z390, and its really ridiculous. £999 for a mATX mb, i mean, Asus are having a laff there right? That has to be a typo. I wouldn't pay more than £99 for a mATX.
 
humbug said:
Wow ok....

It should be explained for those that don't know, running Gaming Mode in Ryzen Master turns off one of the two CCX's, so on whatever CPU you run it on you only have half the CPU cores, in this case 4, in my case 3, With SMT ofcorse, so 8 or 6 threads, vs 16 or in my case 12.
Its a stupid mode i don't know why Ryzen has it, its mainly for Threadripper to cut down inter-core latency, it makes no difference to performance on Ryzen, other than the effects of only having half the CPU cores.
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Anyone in a position to do a quick 2700X AotS Bench with Game Mode On & Off? I've been looking around for one but can't find anything.
 
https://www.patreon.com/posts/21950120
A few viewers pointed out that the Ryzen 7 2700X was listed as tested in the “Game Mode” within the Ryzen Master software and I foolishly thought they might have just made a simple copy and paste error in their document as they would have used this mode for the 2950X. This does explain why the Threadripper CPUs were faster than the 2700X in every test.What this means is a CCX module in the 2700X was completely disabled, essentially turning it into a quad-core.

This is unbelievable, I don’t know if they are being extremely malicious or it’s just incompetence of the highest order.
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Even Forbes has an article about this and Intel PR actually "responded" to their concerns.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...enchmarks-are-misleading-period/#881d3644e4ea

Intel PR:
"We are deeply appreciative of the work of the reviewer community and expect that over the coming weeks additional testing will continue to show that the 9th Gen Intel Core i9-9900K is the world’s best gaming processor.
Principled Technologies conducted this initial testing using systems running in spec, configured to show CPU performance and has published the configurations used.
The data is consistent with what we have seen in our labs, and we look forward to seeing the results from additional third party testing in the coming weeks."
 
NinjaCool said:
Even Forbes has an article about this and Intel PR actually "responded" to their concerns.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...enchmarks-are-misleading-period/#881d3644e4ea

Intel PR:
"We are deeply appreciative of the work of the reviewer community and expect that over the coming weeks additional testing will continue to show that the 9th Gen Intel Core i9-9900K is the world’s best gaming processor.
Principled Technologies conducted this initial testing using systems running in spec, configured to show CPU performance and has published the configurations used.
The data is consistent with what we have seen in our labs, and we look forward to seeing the results from additional third party testing in the coming weeks."
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Why not just use the 2400G, essentially that's what Principled Technologies turned the 2700X into, saves having to turn the 4 cores off at all :rolleyes: pathetic, Intel, this is real gutter stuff.

Well.... a predictable response from Intel, those "third party" testers will just have to contradict them then. :D
 
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Even Forbes has an article about this and Intel PR actually "responded" to their concerns.
Intel PR:
"We are deeply appreciative of the work of the reviewer community and expect that over the coming weeks additional testing will continue to show that the 9th Gen Intel Core i9-9900K is the world’s best gaming processor.
Principled Technologies conducted this initial testing using systems running in spec, configured to show CPU performance and has published the configurations used.
The data is consistent with what we have seen in our labs, and we look forward to seeing the results from additional third party testing in the coming weeks."
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Or we've been caught, oops. I thought they would have learned their lesson after their under hand clocked 5Ghz demo at Computex.
 
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