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I see no problem with flying our national flag all year round 
Somewhat narrow minded don't you think?
No, we definitely don't.
National pride is propagated by the leaders of a nation to encourage people to join the organisations which kill/die for the country in question.
It serves a purpose to the leaders.
It's pathetic & cretinous - almost as bay as royalists who enjoy being a "subject" of an inbred German family of benefit leeches.
This island is a bit of land, nothing but a bit of land we currently occupy.
It was here before England existed & it will be here after it's gone - it's all made up borders & boundaries, nothing worth dying over.
It serves a purpose to the leaders.
It's pathetic & cretinous - almost as bay as royalists who enjoy being a "subject" of an inbred German family of benefit leeches.
This island is a bit of land, nothing but a bit of land we currently occupy.
It was here before England existed & it will be here after it's gone - it's all made up borders & boundaries, nothing worth dying over.
As an army brat I grew up around people that were not closest racists yet still had a great deal of respect for the Union Flag, for Regimental Colours and for what they represent. This being the primary experience I have had growing up should I therefore assume all people who fly the flag feel the same? Obviously not, as that sort of narrow minded view would be pushing my experiences and expectations on everyone else.
Whilst it has certainly been used in such a way in the past and will no doubt be used in such a way in the future it is not the only reason for it. National pride can also be an extension of the pride we feel in our community, a sort of collective shared values. The same sort of empathy and bonding necessary for any sort of community at all.
National pride is not always about being better than other countries. It could just as easily be about feeling a connection too and community with your country. Being proud to be British is about being proud to be part of the community that is Britain and being proud of the things that we, as a community, can accomplish. That is not to say we have accomplished more or better things than other communities or are better than other communities.
Sadly this is where you are showing your ignorance of how the Royal Family is funded.
So what is worth dying for? How wide a social circle do you draw before you go "Nope, not worth risking my life over."? Family? Family and friends? Local community? Regional community?
haha, so go live some where else (preferably some slum town) then, its only land after all, I am sure you will love the infrastructure the people of that country had built over centuries, people say this forget what the British flag has down for this country, you would not be living this standard if it wasn't for past generations acutally fighting/working/loving the county
Liberals gonna liberal
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I think you really need to start learning what liberalism is really all about rather than just parroting the US conservatives and using it as an insult. I have absolutely no problem reconciling my liberal beliefs with ideas such as national pride and the monarchy.
From my experience army brats are the worst of them.
People are the same everywhere, if it was not for the deliberate divides that are created (religion/national identity) we could start empathising with people of all nations - not just our own.
While it sounds commendable the same notion creates racism, xenophobia & wars.
The royal family costs the tax-payer £38.2m PA, not including all of the security costs.
Try again.
She also does not have to pay tax & dodged inheritance tax on the death of the queen mother (£20mil)
People are worth dying for.
Not flags, nations or borders.
But you clearly can't comprehend the difference.
Disliking national pride has nothing to do with liberalism idiot.
Also,
I respect the achievements of individuals & collective communities - but I don't think the world should be carved up by a select few & the people forced to fight over the acquisition of resources which should be collectively shared anyway.
Pride should be reserved for things you have actually done, as opposed to leeching onto others achievements (usually by people who have done nothing themselves).
More narrow minded bigotry.
How big a group can you personally identify with before any sense of community fades?
Look at the income raised from the crown estates. Try again.
Which people though? What people do you think are worth dying for? All of them?
I can comprehend the difference, however I just have a different view from you. I also seem to be able to consider that other people may not share exactly the same views and so do not consider only my point of view correct. Shame you dont seem to be able to do that.
They don't cost us money. Just taking in to account the Crown Estates they make us money. They aren't even going to be costing us tax going forward as they will be taking a percentage of the Crown Estates instead.
Don't you understand?.
The land should not be there's to make money from in the first place, the same amount could be made without the £35m (nice how you skipped the part about dodging inheritance tax also).
This outdated & useless institution should be scrapped.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/apologist
Read up on it.
Military personal are brainwashed from the get-go to support the monarchy - as a member of the military you have to swear an oath to them, hardly going to be able to give a rational opinion.
I don't blame you for being indoctrinated.
Great so you want borders/countries/flags to disband, I dont.
Guess what, we are going to have to fight to the death, the one alive can do what they want.
Because the choice is clearly between how things are now & a big free for all.Great so you want borders/countries/flags to disband, I dont.
Guess what, we are going to have to fight to the death, the one alive can do what they want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma