PDC 2008 - Windows 7

It's bigger and bulkier because it's the only way touchscreen tablet computers and displays are properly usable by the general public.
 
I'm just wondering about how exactly it's going to be different to Vista...I saw an interesting quote about it earlier on:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/10/28/dlwindows128.xml

Under the bonnet, it's not going to be any different really. All the new system stacks introduced in Vista are unchanged/ The difference will be that manufacturers and developers have had several years of Vista enforcing the standards they were always supposed to use, and so will be much more likely to have released properly spec'd hardware and properly written software than they were for the vista launch.

Looks good so far, subtle but welcome changes to the UI, a few usability improvements and the seperation of many previously bundled applications is welcome, as long as they remain on the install disc of course.
 
haven't used vista so don't know if it's already been put in, but anyone know if w7 will have better support for multiple screens? something along the lines of ultramon? i know i can use ultramon to do pretty much most that i want, but i'd prefer it to come standard with windows and be implemented much better, e.g. atm ultramon has a very ugly button to change which screen the window is displayed on which is next to minx/max/close buttons, looks tacky imo and would be nice if windows could do a really great job for multiple windows.
 
haven't used vista so don't know if it's already been put in, but anyone know if w7 will have better support for multiple screens? something along the lines of ultramon? i know i can use ultramon to do pretty much most that i want, but i'd prefer it to come standard with windows and be implemented much better, e.g. atm ultramon has a very ugly button to change which screen the window is displayed on which is next to minx/max/close buttons, looks tacky imo and would be nice if windows could do a really great job for multiple windows.

In the keynote is showed off new features for multiple monitors and projectors. But I've never used Ultramon so I don't know how they stack up against each other.
 
Under the bonnet, it's not going to be any different really. All the new system stacks introduced in Vista are unchanged/ The difference will be that manufacturers and developers have had several years of Vista enforcing the standards they were always supposed to use, and so will be much more likely to have released properly spec'd hardware and properly written software than they were for the vista launch.

Looks good so far, subtle but welcome changes to the UI, a few usability improvements and the seperation of many previously bundled applications is welcome, as long as they remain on the install disc of course.

Good info, but surely those manufacturers have had several years to make their drivers and hardware run well with Vista too, so will W7 really be all that much better than running Vista with all the latest patches and 3rd party drivers?

I'm running XP at the moment, but I'll probably buy it if the gaming performance is better.
 
Good info, but surely those manufacturers have had several years to make their drivers and hardware run well with Vista too, so will W7 really be all that much better than running Vista with all the latest patches and 3rd party drivers?

I'm running XP at the moment, but I'll probably buy it if the gaming performance is better.

Yep, they have, but many people are still running older hardware/software, or software that's no longer supported by it's creators, and people remember that the first time they used vista, they had loads of problems, or loads of UAC prompts or whatever, because if you were an early adopter, you ran into problems, issues or concerns on even seemingly normal software at the start. Many people blamed Vista even though it wasn't vista's fault that it enforced the standards that were already there.

By the time windows 7 is launched, people should be able to go straight from Vista to 7, or XP to 7 without anything like the same amount of hassle, because even those still on XP are updating to vista compatible software, although many don't realise it.
 
I'm just wondering about how exactly it's going to be different to Vista...I saw an interesting quote about it earlier on:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/10/28/dlwindows128.xml

That shouldn't be too hard considering Windows 7 is just built on top of Vista and the vast majority of Vista's software/hardware compatibility problems were solved years ago :) All of the driver model and UAC model will stay the same for Windows 7 so there will be no significant "breaking changes" there.

So Microsoft are just stating the obvious there really.
 
Windows 7 is basically what XP was to 2000 right?

Pretty much, all the architectural changes have taken place in vista, windows 7 is primarily a UI refresh, along with making some of the modular programming optional (although most people will probably install all of it anyway)

kinda...

but this has a smaller footprint than Vista

Only because it's stripped some componants out of the core install and set them as optional...
 
Looks nice to me, Bit sceptical about the toolbar though, Really not interested in touch screen on my pc. If it is anything like Vista is now on release we should have a nice experience :)
 
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