Pentagon releases UFO footage

Screeeech said:
One of the lines that has come up a few times in this story, that makes me laugh is this one, with regard to the question of whether or not anyone has been killed or hurt by these aliens:

Grusch:


So, talking about recovering and reverse engineering alien technology from flying saucers, recovering alien bodies, so on and so forth - it's totally fine, no problem talking about that. But go any further about anyone getting hurt or killed by it - nah, that's just going too far :cry:
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That actually make sense with how USA law works. If someone died and the family were lied to about the cause of death while under service. That's a major thing in the USA.

You where asking before why are people getting behind this and why is it different to the other people who came forward. This should help explain thehill.com have done a serious article on this and pointed out how there does appear to be real evidence and while we should remain very sceptical, we shouldn’t be treating this like the other people who came forward and instantly dismissing it.

Some key highlights below

“The managing partner of the law firm representing the whistleblower reportedly co-signed the complaint submitted to the current Intelligence Community inspector general. As noted in a legal analysis, no lawyer, let alone two high-caliber attorneys, would sign such an extraordinary document without “very credible source material.””

“Importantly, current and former officials vouched for the whistleblower, David Grusch, while also corroborating the broad outlines of his allegations.”

“the classified evidence Grusch provided to Congress and two inspectors general would have to have been robust, detailed and substantiated by other knowledgeable individuals for the Intelligence Community watchdog to deem his claims “credible and urgent.””

https://thehill.com/opinion/4038159-stunning-ufo-crash-retrieval-allegations-deemed-credible-urgent/

One should be very sceptical but based on above we should not be dismissing this out of hand.

Another good video that explains what is different https://twitter.com/rosscoulthart/status/1667324202838552577

"Locations of where these crafts are stored. The names of the people in charge of the UFO program. The names of the gatekeepers within the program. Named a private aerospace company." this seems rather detailed for a BS story. This is enough to put David Grusch in jail for lying.
 
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MoNkeE said:
Pottsey wont send me links :(

Also you didn’t send two links. You sent a Twitter post of somebody saying “has he taken in to account wind speed” or something, with somebody replying with the metabunk link, which was your second link. So really you’ve only provided one link, which if you read the entire thread, seems to suggest all the wind data used in their “scientific” models were taken from the wrong day……….
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I didn’t have time yesterday to respond to everyone and to be honest I cannot remember where I read that. Not realizing I would need it later I didn’t save the link. After a very quick search I found this https://twitter.com/LiberationTimes/status/1664694175491665920 but I don’t think that the original source I read.

Going back to wind speed the point of that link in my other post is Joshua didn't factor in the wind or the other elements he missed that impact the real speed that object is moving it. So we cannot debunk the video based on Joshua inaccurate math. Even if Joshua got that one frame right which is doubtful, it doesn't explain away the rest of the video or the other videos.

Anyway, at this point we don’t need the source of the NASA comment. The 3 videos have not been debunked and explained away. Screeech never provide the evidence for the other 2 videos being explained away and the evidence provided for the 1 video doesn’t debunk it or explain it away.
 
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Pottsey said:
“The managing partner of the law firm representing the whistleblower reportedly co-signed the complaint submitted to the current Intelligence Community inspector general. As noted in a legal analysis, no lawyer, let alone two high-caliber attorneys, would sign such an extraordinary document without “very credible source material.””
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Eh?

So we're now saying that because some lawyers will get involved (presumably for a hefty fee) that the whole thing is serious and legit, just because some lawyers got involved?

Doesn't mean anything, lawyers get involved with nonsense cases all the time so long as they're getting paid.

Pottsey said:
One should be very sceptical but based on above we should not be dismissing this out of hand.
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I'm not dismissing anything out of hand, I'm merely pointing to the balance of probabilties based on the evidence. I stick by the analysis in regard to the claims made that based on the evidence of aliens and flying saucers provided thus far (none), the probability that this is a big load of poop, is high.

Pottsey said:
The 3 videos have not been debunked and explained away. Screeech never provide the evidence for the other 2 videos being explained away and the evidence provided for the 1 video doesn’t debunk it or explain it away.
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The problem is;

I actually spend a lot of time going through things, because I care about the exact details. However you seem to have a habit of ignoring or not taking the time to understand and think about what actually gets said. This isn't just by me - but also other posters in this thread, who've repeatadly done the same thing and provided fair, accurate and correct information which makes sense.

You just don't want to hear it, so I'm not going to waste hours (because that's how long it takes) going through stuff, making mspaint drawings for you, pulling out everything else - for you simply to copy and paste the same responses you already wrote as though we never addressed them.

It's like arguing with a creationist or something, it's the same mindset.
 
Housey said:
It is a fascinating debate, but all if this stuff is human derived in my opinion.

I did see a ‘documentary’ about a space ship, believed to have landed in San Francisco, that has invisible aluminium. Apparently one of the aliens got onto a US carrier but he had a Russian accent. There was also talk of an incident on a bus seen by locals where a punk rocker got owned…but all I took from it was “wale stealers”.
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Were there any "nuclear vessels" in the area?
 
Screeeech said:
“I actually spend a lot of time going through things, because I care about the exact details. “
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Which you have multiple times been proven wrong about via logic, facts, math and almost every time you ignored those details because it didn’t fit into your fake narrative. Just like you did recently with Joshuas math. You didn’t like it when the details got called into question and resorted to calling me names. Then you ignored the fact you was proven wrong.


Screeeech said:
“ However you seem to have a habit of ignoring or not taking the time to understand and think about what actually gets said. This isn't just by me - but also other posters in this thread, who've repeatadly done the same thing and provided fair, accurate and correct information which makes sense.

You just don't want to hear it, so I'm not going to waste hours (because that's how long it takes) going through stuff, making mspaint drawings for you, pulling out everything else - for you simply to copy and paste the same responses you already wrote as though we never addressed them.

It's like arguing with a creationist or something, it's the same mindset.”
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You could do with some serious self-reflection given the number of times you have done everything you just falsely accused me of doing. You seem to be self-projecting what you are doing onto other people. That’s a massive red flag so I am going to take a break trying to engage with you as it’s like trying to talk to a conspiracy theorist you have the same style of mind set. You can self-project all you like as I am not interested in playing your silly games and I am not going to derail this thread trying to logically go over your nonsense. We are never going to agree so the best thing we can do is walk away from each other for a while. Which is what I am going to do to save the thread being ruined with another 100 back and fourth posts of your nonsense.

I am going to focus on what matters and post any interesting updates as I come across them. Like the NYT article which will hopefully be due Sunday.
 
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koolpc said:
How did Columbus know there was life in the Americas?
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He didn't, he set sail to see if there was a quicker way to Asia and there was something in the way.
At that point they knew Earth was a globe and going round South Africa was deadly.

koolpc said:
We are not alone!

With the vastness of space, the odds of us being alone are nil...
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I'm the biggest sceptic on here but I don't think anybody in this thread believes no other life has existed outside Earth.
I believe life will exist everywhere it is able to just like we see on Earth HOWEVER has any of it turned into intelligent life? That's a whole different ball game.
And if it has then when? 10 billion years ago, 5 billion years ago etc.
This is the Fermi Paradox, the chances of intelligent Alien life forming at the same time as us is virtually zero but lets say there is one 4000 light years away, how are they getting here?
 
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I do like the Top5s channel for their compilations on various topics, this being a fitting one for this thread :p
 
It's the DM so make of it what you will but...

www.dailymail.co.uk

Crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space and time'

Lawyer Daniel Sheehan tells DailyMail.com that a whistleblower told him of a crashed UFO recovered by the US military that 'distorted space-time'.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

“They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.”
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SexyGreyFox said:
He didn't, he set sail to see if there was a quicker way to Asia and there was something in the way.
At that point they knew Earth was a globe and going round South Africa was deadly.



I'm the biggest sceptic on here but I don't think anybody in this thread believes no other life has existed outside Earth.
I believe life will exist everywhere it is able to just like we see on Earth HOWEVER has any of it turned into intelligent life? That's a whole different ball game.
And if it has then when? 10 billion years ago, 5 billion years ago etc.
This is the Fermi Paradox, the chances of intelligent Alien life forming at the same time as us is virtually zero but lets say there is one 4000 light years away, how are they getting here?
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Intelligence is not the goal of evolution - it's a by product. We were lucky. Evolution is simply about adapting to the environment to survive. It could well be there is no other intelligent life in the universe but there may be an abundance of non intelligent life which would explain why we have not detected radiowaves from ancient alien civilisations.
 
As an aside, I’ve always thought the chances of us being able to reverse engineer alien technology has always been incredibly small. Even ignoring being able to reproduce alien manufacturing processes, surely there’s a high chance they could use materials/elements/alloys that we don’t have access to on Earth?
 
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