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The economic turbulence globally from the news would also be quite large, I would imagine.
Pentagon releases UFO footage
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I just cannot buy this whole "disclosure" thing... Or the idea that the government are covering things up, these people can't even cover up their basic tax fraud, speeding tickets or affairs - how the hell can anyone believe they'd be competent at covering up aliens, flying saucers and secret alien tech - they're idiots.
It's all a gigantic pile of baloney.
It's all a gigantic pile of baloney.
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Yeah there is no way an ex president or other leader wouldn't have spilled the beans, Trump would now be using this to blackmail the US gov to stop him being held accountable for his crimes. Some samples would have been smuggled out at some point, we'd have seen the tech work its way into our tech, no way governments would sit on that when it could them a huge tech advantage over everyone else.
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So you didn't see Independence Day, the President had zero idea that they had Aliens or UFOs at Area 51.
That's real life to some people.
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Damn you're right, I'm just being naïve.
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Just to take this point and not discuss whether we have alien tech or not, if you were to place a mobile phone in the timeline at say 1823, do you think they would be able to reverse engineer it ? Or do you think it would be mystery to them for at least a century, unless we had at least invented things like television and were getting some grasp of electricity ? Now what if that is thousands of years more advanced, even trying to recreate alien alloys/polymers could prove impossible for us
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100%, reverse engineered, what a load of BS.
We wouldn't have the slightest clue what to do with it.
After the implementation of some basic scientific processes I'm not sure it would be impossible to reverse engineer something unless it was well beyond our instrumental means to prod at it.
People in Congress yeah you are right....people in Lockheed Martin have a better chance.
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Thing is in 1823 the scientific world was light years from where it is today. So they wouldn't of had the tools to even think about metrology etc. I get your point though but in several decades you would expect one country to be dominating technological breakthroughs with ideas no one even thought of.
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US has dominated though really when you think about most breakthroughs, certainly when it comes to most things electronics, it helps they became an industrial powerhouse post WW2 but perhaps they had a little off world inspiration for their breakthroughs
I rekon someone like Newton would have figured out a hell of a lot, if you'd have teleported an iPhone back to him. Most of the things that go on inside an iPhone are very simple, there's just a lot of it. I think Newton would quite quickly have figured out some of the basic rules about how electronics and signalling worked, and worked backwards from there.
It would definitely explain the indestructibility of the Nokia 3310…. Maybe they learnt to be more subtle with their breakthroughs after that
Lockheed Martin make the F35, budget of $500Bn (five-hundred BILLION dollars for a plane), you'd think that if they had some sort of super-duper alien tech, something with properties tantamount to magic (which it would be if it was alien) that they wouldn't be wasting their time slaving away with jet engines, bullets and fragile human pilots.
It doesn't make any sense.
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This would easily be explained by them not fully understanding the tech and so cannot recreate it, or not having mastery over it to the point that it could be made safe in an operational environment without the chance of an adversary capturing it.
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You think with the amount of money America spends on their military, they'd be quite good in wars 
A better explanation, is that it's not there at all - because it's a load of nonsense
Well come the new year we will find out because holding such materials undeclared will become illegal due to the new legislation added to the NDAA. David Grusch, Lue Elizondo, Eric Davis and others claim to know who is holding such materials. If credible evidence has been presented to congress (it has) and these companies are not forthcoming, then the Justice Department and FBI will I am sure be called upon to knock on facility doors.A better explanation, is that it's not there at all - because it's a load of nonsense
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@Screeeech @SexyGreyFox et al distilling evidence from conspiracy and conjecture means ignoring the various forums; instead reading the official documents (the Act itself) and media broadcasts and publications (eg Senator interviews & hearings).
At this stage, the outcomes and direction of travel for the whole sphere of information pressing through the US Senate and Congressional hearings is clearly being meticulously managed but on public record and in the political domain.
There is an 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) Disclosure Act of 2023' already drafted and subject to some likely ammendments.
The content of this Act makes for fascinating reading.
Thus if you only focus on the context and content of everything official surrounding this, there is a clear weighting of evidence that the Senate is under absolute conviction that unexplained phenomenon (UAP) information is being withheld from them and by proxy the public.
This doesn't necessarily mean 'aliens' and there is no direct evidence to demonstrate this is the outcome in the public domain yet. Wording being used is careful, considered and intentional.
From the Senate press release:
www.democrats.senate.gov
“For decades, many Americans have been fascinated by objects mysterious and unexplained and it’s long past time they get some answers,” said Leader Schumer. “The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, non-human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena. We are not only working to declassify what the government has previously learned about these phenomena but to create a pipeline for future research to be made public. I am honored to carry on the legacy of my mentor and dear friend, Harry Reid and fight for the transparency that the public has long demanded surround these unexplained phenomena.”
At this stage, the outcomes and direction of travel for the whole sphere of information pressing through the US Senate and Congressional hearings is clearly being meticulously managed but on public record and in the political domain.
There is an 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) Disclosure Act of 2023' already drafted and subject to some likely ammendments.
The content of this Act makes for fascinating reading.
Thus if you only focus on the context and content of everything official surrounding this, there is a clear weighting of evidence that the Senate is under absolute conviction that unexplained phenomenon (UAP) information is being withheld from them and by proxy the public.
This doesn't necessarily mean 'aliens' and there is no direct evidence to demonstrate this is the outcome in the public domain yet. Wording being used is careful, considered and intentional.
From the Senate press release:
Schumer, Rounds Introduce New Legislation To Declassify Government Records Related To Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena & UFOs – Modeled After JFK Assassination Records Collection Act – As An Amendment To NDAA | Senate Democratic Leadership
Washington, D.C. – Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) are leading...
www.democrats.senate.gov
“For decades, many Americans have been fascinated by objects mysterious and unexplained and it’s long past time they get some answers,” said Leader Schumer. “The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, non-human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena. We are not only working to declassify what the government has previously learned about these phenomena but to create a pipeline for future research to be made public. I am honored to carry on the legacy of my mentor and dear friend, Harry Reid and fight for the transparency that the public has long demanded surround these unexplained phenomena.”
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So that now goes back to the nonsense of reverse engineering Alien tech for humans to use even though somebody thinks Newton could do it
Reverse engineering a captured new Russian Jet no problem, reverse engineering an Alien craft that is possibly 100,000s of years than ours no chance.