Pentagon releases UFO footage

keyser van someone said:
Y'all need to take up astronomy and you'll figure out how cameras and focusing works. Treat yourself to some Amazon binoculars, it's a fun thing to try :) check out the moon!

There is a reason no one nearer these 'objects' are taking videos of them. Because when you're closer and can see/hear it's a plane, there is nothing to film - it's identified.

10000 people saw something amazing? interesting but ultimately meaningless to work with. Any video, date, time, location information?
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There is a flaw in that. At least some of those ball/orbs look the same closeup and its not from camera focusing and not anything to do with astronomy. At least a handful of them are not identified when close up. People are falsely writing them all off as planes, planets, stars even when the object is close up. The only reason you say none of them are close up is because when there is a close up video people are incorrectly writing it off as just a plane etc. in the distance. EDIT: Didn't one of the videos posted this week have the person saying it was up close and silent going against saying no one takes videos of the objects close up.

I am sure a great many are drones, planes, planets, stars since the media hysteria got involved but that doesn't invalidate the real ones. What ever those plasma like ball/orbs are, they are 100% real. I am not saying all of them are real, but not all of them are misidentifications of drones, planes, planets, stars.
 
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So much speculation in this thread. What we do know.

1) Trump's statement confirmed the government know what's going on. Something is going on. Various military and civilian press statements formally confirm this too.

Denying everything and saying it's only planets, stars or regular aircraft just completely ignores the official evidence.

2) There have been a plethora of press releases recently including and especially in Q4 2024 including from Mitsibushi Heavy Industries and partner agencies about their next gen combat support UAVs like the ARMDC-20X which look like mini F22s or Tempest.

3) There are a significant number of both jet and prop powered operational support advanced unmanned combat systems in test now. Some of these are big, long range + high altitude capable and AI controlled.

4) Depending on which media channels you follow, there has been more compelling pics and videos which clearly show the ACS(AI) UAVs in test.

5) Enough aligns with the congressional senate hearings on non disclosed funded programmes using tax dollars.

6) Main question for me is why now, it's a lot of activity so why timed now?

Regardless, for those sitting at the extremes; It's a big jump from the above to either deny wholesale or claim aliens though.
 
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Scrutinize said:
So much speculation in this thread. What we do know.

1) Trump's statement confirmed the government know what's going on. Something is going on. Various military and civilian press statements formally confirm this too.

Denying everything and saying it's only planets, stars or regular aircraft just completely ignores the official evidence.

2) There have been a plethora of press releases recently including and especially in Q4 2024 including from Mitsibushi Heavy Industries and partner agencies about their next gen combat support UAVs like the ARMDC-20X which look like mini F22s or Tempest.

3) There are a significant number of both jet and prop powered operational support advanced unmanned combat systems in test now. Some of these are big, long range + high altitude capable and AI controlled.

4) Depending on which media channels you follow, there has been more compelling pics and videos which clearly show the ACS(AI) UAVs in test.

5) Enough aligns with the congressional senate hearings on non disclosed funded programmes using tax dollars.

6) Main question for me is why now, it's a lot of activity so why timed now?

Regardless, for those sitting at the extremes; It's a big jump from the above to either deny wholesale or claim aliens though.
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Username checks out.
 
Minusorange said:
Just radio chatter overlayed with flight tracking of pilots and air traffic control regarding sightings of lights
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they don't have phones with cameras in these cockpits? even fighter pilots have been wrong about ufos before due to optical illusions and other stuff they aren't used to seeing
 
keyser van someone said:
Once we have something to work with we can take a look; video, date, time, location.

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That's true but sadly a lot are attention seeking narcissists, with most only being interested in clicks.
aardvark said:
its ridiculous - how am i supposed to takes these morons seriously when they don't even know what an out of focus point of light looks like.
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Sadly this will be the case for most people given the fact they can't afford expensive camera gear and they're mostly using a phone. Even using the gear I've got, (Sony A1 with a 300mm f2.8 and a 1.4 and 2x teleconverter costing £14000) wouldn't get a clear shot unless there was enough ambient light to illuminate and cover the object being photographed. The object would still have to remain stationary long enough to allow the sensor to gather enough light to prevent the object blurring. The way to settle the argument, (once and for all) would be to install some floodlights, similar to the ones used to identify aircraft on night-time bombing raids- and then take the photographs, along with being able to provide the .raw files, should they be required?
 
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keyser van someone said:
Just let me know which ones are the real ones and I'll have a look.
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The ones at Rufford Aby are real. If you look at the early videos like https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/1hcw25g/to_the_its_normal_drones_or_planes_folks_this_man/ the reports are very diffrent to after the media hysteria got involved. The reports that started all this don't match typical drones, planes, planets, stars

Since we are talking about Orbs this is an entertaining video on the subject.

 
Does anybody here, have a video they can link, in this thread that will convince me that these things are anything other than planes, planets, stars, lens-flare, consumer drones, helicopters?

I'm open to being convinced, but every single video, and I mean every single one I've seen - looks totally explainable.
 
Felon said:
Does anybody here, have a video they can link, in this thread that will convince me that these things are anything other than planes, planets, stars, lens-flare, consumer drones, helicopters?

I'm open to being convinced, but every single video, and I mean every single one I've seen - looks totally explainable.
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What do you want to be convinced of and why should we try to convince you either way?

Just Google official statements and press releases for Dec 2024 on USA and Global drone activity. There's loads, some helpful, some not.

Spend some time reviewing and searching for the evidence yourself. Sufficient official statements exist now from multiple agencies.

It's like the whole congressional bill process discussed in this thread in previous months. I spent a few days reading the actual bills and all supporting official documentation. There isn't a video or soundbite that informs this.

For most on here, the only next step is to book a flight to New Jersey and spend a few days there. Then you become an eye witness.
 
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Scrutinize said:
What do you want to be convinced of and why should we try to convince you either way?
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I just want to scrutinize the available evidence, and I'm interested in seeing the best available evidence that's known, at this time - without having to scroll through hundreds of videos of planes.
 
Felon said:
I just want to scrutinize the available evidence, and I'm interested in seeing the best available evidence that's known, at this time - without having to scroll through hundreds of videos of planes.
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But that's the whole premise of establishing sufficient evidence. Reviewing all the sources and information and drawing an informed conclusion yourself.
 
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