Performance Diesels

scott212 said:
Similar thing when I drove my dad's 330D, floor it and you think you're going like a rocket and then you suddenly realise it's not actually accelerating that quickly.
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Actually your Dad's 330D is quite quick in the grand scheme of things, indeed I would call it fast for a diesel. Or it 'should' be anyway.

I find my car to actually be quite the opposite of that, you put your foot down and it doesn't really feel like you're accelerating that quickly at all, look down and the speedo and you realise you are going an awful lot faster than you thought :p ...my car is petrol though and it's power delivery is all about smoothness not neck-snapping acceleration, it's very deceptive though.

I have little trouble showing most diesels a clean pair of exhaust pipes (clean because they aren't all sooted up, rofl ...ahem sorry :p ) ...I will say this though, never, ever underestimate a BMW 335D ...they are quick, very quick.
 
Moeks said:
Actually your Dad's 330D is quite quick in the grand scheme of things, indeed I would call it fast for a diesel. Or it 'should' be anyway.

I find my car to actually be quite the opposite of that, you put your foot down and it doesn't really feel like you're accelerating that quickly at all, look down and the speedo and you realise you are going an awful lot faster than you thought :p ...my car is petrol though and it's power delivery is all about smoothness not neck-snapping acceleration, it's very deceptive though.

I have little trouble showing most diesels a clean pair of exhaust pipes (clean because they aren't all sooted up, rofl ...ahem sorry :p ) ...I will say this though, never, ever underestimate a BMW 335D ...they are quick, very quick.
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His is the E93 convertible. For some reason they don't offer the 335d in the convertible. Does anybody know why? The 330d still hits 62 in 6.2 seconds and chucks out 520 Nm of torque :eek:

I still don't believe that cars like the Z4M struggle to keep up with a 335d coupe though.
 
A Z4M, hmmm that's a car I have driven actually, few years ago though, and I maintain to this day, it was the most fun car I have ever driven too, brilliant fun. I don't know, I would say a remapped 335D would certainly cause a Z4M problems in a straightline, show it a twisting, rising, falling, winding B road with tight corners and fast and slow sections and I don't think the 335D would keep up then :)
 
well, i used to own a mondeo TDCi 130, and at the time, i loved the torque and the kick from the turbo at 2100rpm, and nobody could tell me it wasn't all that as i wouldn't listen.

Then i bought my current car and saw sense, i'm not knocking performance diesels in any way, they are great in their own way, but they run out of steam too quickly. I cannot comment on anything like a 335D though, i imagine even that will wee all over my car but at the end of the day, it's what you've experienced that matters :)
 
Not sure I can be bothered to go through that, it looks like a bunch of keyboard warriors slating some poor dude who likes his 335d.

Why can't some rich person buy and have a drag race of E90 series 330i, 330d, 335i and the 335d just to compare them up to say 100mph.
 
I thought it was about the time the 535d came out, which is why they did it... Might be wrong, cant be bothered to watch it again to find out!
 
Yea you are right, he talks about the twin turbo charging, also says that BMW say it does 0-60 in 6 seconds, that's certainly faster than the 530D, so it must be the 535D then.
 
The problem is, to do a fair comparison you need to compare equivalent cars.

How do you decide what is equivalent? CC? BHP? Torque? Price?
 
Thats 535d V 545i V8. The 0-62 of the 535d and 530d is less than .4 of a second, plus, its the older 535d engine. LCI was upped by 30bhp IIRC.
 
i still think it shows diesels in a good light. it's being compared to a V8!
the fact it hung on in there is in itself no mean feat..
 
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