I'll eat my old Gordon the Gopher puppet with squeaker if he's innocent
Philip Schofield - It’s All Coming Out Now.
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Grooming and affair are different things.
Ah ok so you can groom but only smash when they're 18..gotcha
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If my Grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike.
Still no excuse to lock her to the railings
Have you proof of grooming?
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So he was someone who was struggling with his sexuality, like many many men and women do but then later in life can't live the lie any longer. Crap for the partner its true but is it any worse than getting dumped for a younger model? I've got several mates who are married and haven't got laid with their wives for years, they stick around because they either love them or they have younger kids. He may well have still loved his wife and maybe still does.
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I absolutely refuse to watch that evil ***** and had kind of hoped she'd passed away. Oh well.
Assuming that rumors are true - flip the gender, if the person was female and Phil knew them since they were 11, helped them get into showbiz and started the affair once they were legal do you think certain people wouldn't be shouting "he groomed her" from the rooftops?
So? Are you aware of the term "grooming"?
Well yes of course but that doesn't mean that was the case. Why does everyone have to be this evil grooming nonce?
I understand that some of his counterparts haven't done him any favours but is it possible that in this case it is more of something that developed.
There are loads of normal people like you and me that end up with younger people that they first met when they were much younger.
I for one at this point will not accept that it is a case of grooming until I see something that undoubtedly proves it.
That doesn't mean I support such actions, I means I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt until that point. I don't disagree with peoples keenness to label him on the evidence presented so far either. That's just the way they work
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It was 70k yesterday lol.
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Why did he support him from such a young age then?
Regardless of what is legal or not he is still a teenager and Phil is old enough to be his Grandad. 16 might be the legal age of consent but you are talking a 40+ year age gap here.
My daughter will be 16 this year and she has no idea of what being an adult is. If a 60 year old was trying it on with her I would be going to prison more than likely.
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Ahh, I think I see your main issue with the term, its currently seen as a hot button topic by those on the right, especially relating to gay men, and Phil would appear to be playing right into that stereotype.
I'm not sure how many nigh on 50 year old men take an interest in someone 30-40 years younger, help guide their career and then end up sleeping with them..
I would assume the only evidence you'd accept would the person coming out and saying 'he groomed me'?
No it can’t.
I can but it a) doesn’t make it right or appropriate, b) means it often overtakes the facts with social media which makes it extremely dangerous.
Blind ignorance of what exactly? I seem to be fully aware of all the facts currently available.
I just have not jumped to ‘grooming’ when there is currently zero evidence of it.
Innocent until proven guilty, is a fairly fundamental concept in our society. I’m more than happy shown otherwise and I’m not blinkered but I just don’t jump to conclusions based on a fraction of what’s likely to come out over time.
Ultimately the outcome he will be cancelled either way.
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It's a fair question and one that none of us can really answer without speculation. But then again that's why we are in a forum, to speculate.
I understand that you would feel like that and that's completely human but to the letter of the law your daughter is old enough to make that decision for herself and the chances are is that she would be asking for your blessing. It's a difficult one that's for sure.
I actually agree with you and think that the age should be increased to 18.
Agreed, that’s why distancing themselves from Phillip at this point. It’s not because he’s gay.
If any 50 year old man gave a child he met years earlier at work a job and then ended up in a relationship with them a couple of years later people would be concerned as it looks morally questionable as to their motives.
Even if it’s not technically illegal (assuming nothing happened until they were an adult). It still looks like they abused their position of authority and responsibility.
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