Pipeline Card Update!

saitrix · 21 Apr 2006 at 10:10

Best way is to sign up, then forget that you had. Then if it does work and you get a card then it will be a nice little surprise.

lordrobs · 21 Apr 2006 at 10:25

I would like to be able to give you much more information but, unfortunately, we
are bound by a non-disclosure agreement that carries a hefty financial penalty.
So I can't even tell you who we are negotiating with.

Best start finding where your nearest Murco is

merlin · 21 Apr 2006 at 10:30

Didn't sign up & wont sign up till they've actually got something solid.

Which will be never.

Petrol companies don't need to entertain pipeline. If they want more market share - they can simply reduce prices themselves and people will flock. No need to pay pipeline a "commission" either...

Or maybe that's too simplistic a view.

webmonkeyuk · 21 Apr 2006 at 11:08

the ppl who signed up did you put your post code in, if so did you get any junkmail through your letter box

agw_01 · 21 Apr 2006 at 11:10

Signed up a month ago... thought 'what the hell'.

Didn't put my postcode in though. I'm not that stupid

webmonkeyuk · 21 Apr 2006 at 11:17

your gonna have to if you want the card though? thats why i asked. or you waiting till its up and running

Boycie · 23 Apr 2006 at 13:17

webmonkeyuk said:
the ppl who signed up did you put your post code in, if so did you get any junkmail through your letter box

Signed up a couple of months ago, completely filled out the details and i've not got any junk mail at all.

William · 23 Apr 2006 at 13:33

The newsletters are getting increasingly vague. However they did say originally that it would take until late may for the cards to come. Doubtless they will be late, I am guessing June.

megakid · 23 Apr 2006 at 15:50

I dont get the problem - If it happens, It'll be a bonus. Atleast someone's trying something to keep down the prices we're paying at the moment!

OT but, this got me thinking, is the tax on fuel based on price (ie 50% on top of the price of say, 60p = 90p per litre) or is it based on amount (ie 30p on every litre you put in ** car)?
If it's based on price - that means that for every 10p it goes up (pre-tax) per litre (due to oil prices etc), it actually increases 15p.
Whereas if it's based on amount then for every 10p it increases (pre-tax) per litre (due to oil prices etc), it only increases 10p.

Which is it?

blueboy2001 · 23 Apr 2006 at 16:08

megakid said:
Which is it?

It's actually both.

Fuel duty is charged at 47.10p per litre, so revenue per litre is fixed regardless of the overall cost of fuel.

On top of that, VAT is charged on the total sale amount at 17.5%, so as fuel prices increase VAT revenue increases as well.

Eg. for petrol at 95p a litre you have 47p in fuel duty, 15p in VAT and the acutal cost of the fuel is about 34p.

PMKeates · 23 Apr 2006 at 16:14

blueboy2001 said:
Eg. for petrol at 95p a litre you have 47p in fuel duty, 15p in VAT and the acutal cost of the fuel is about 34p.

Which is only ~180% tax. They should put it up to fund more speed cameras!

atpbx · 23 Apr 2006 at 17:12

blueboy2001 said:
It's actually both.

Fuel duty is charged at 47.10p per litre, so revenue per litre is fixed regardless of the overall cost of fuel.

On top of that, VAT is charged on the total sale amount at 17.5%, so as fuel prices increase VAT revenue increases as well.

Eg. for petrol at 95p a litre you have 47p in fuel duty, 15p in VAT and the acutal cost of the fuel is about 34p.

...............and that is the problem.

The fact is, no matter which way you word it, or how you argue fuel duty as a percentage has gone down, there is, and has been since the begining of this theiving govenrment, too much fuel duty.
A short sited idiotic measure that helps no one, and punishes everyone.
We are in the 21st century for gods sake, we cant go back to using a fugging horse and cart to get round, we NEED trucks, we NEED cars, we dont have the public transport infrascture to get rid of private transportation.
Sure mabye you can manage without a car in london and Birmingham etc etc, but you can anywhere else.