piracy? lets solve it with a letter!

Blitz, you should definitely send them the message. Then state that due to their actions and the difficulty in buying their stuff in timely manner that you will now no longer buy anything from them and pirate the lot. :p
 
Arsonist said:
Blitz makes some excellent points, some of which I'd not really considered before. Makes me reevaluate my ideas on piracy really.
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I have a couple of hundred DVD's and Blu-ray's as a direct result of downloading and watching them first. Including entire TV boxsets
 
blitzwing85 said:
Just received my first letter from Plusnet.
They say it's a specific complaint about a specific piece of content so I've opened a ticket to find out what that is.

It'll be interesting to find out.

I like owning content and I'm certainly willing to pay for any that has value to me. It'd be so easy to introduce an efficient system to combat this by giving the consumers what they want.

Recently, I am told I may enjoy Supernatural. It has 9 seasons. Now, I 'could' buy season 1 to try it but that's a risk. If I buy it cheap, and used then they get nothing anyway and buying new is too expensive.
So, I download the first 4-5 episodes. I enjoy it, so I order the entire box set on Bluray.
Give me a way to watch those episodes myself in HD for free and I'd have no reason to pirate.
You could even offer a trial period where you pay to access 4-5 episodes and if you are not happy you get refunded. If you are, you buy buy the season minus what you already paid.
Or 1 of 10 other methods they could introduce.

I suspect the complaint may be from Transformers comics via IDW. Maybe they ought to check my purchase history to see that I own 100s of the damn things. But the release schedules for them are very random, and often extremely long or constantly delayed over here.
If you're really into something, you tend ot be part of discussion bourds online etc so it makes it pretty hard to enjoy some of the social aspects of it if you can't access it legally for 6 months or more.
My Amazon pre-order list is FULL of comics and tv shows / movies that I've got downloaded. I own 120 movies on Bluray and countless tv series on box set. I've downloaded 100% of them before buying.

Before downloading...how many movies did I own on Bluray??? ZERO!

How many gigs did I go to per year? ZERO!

Since downloading a bunch of new music to try out I've seen so many bands all over the UK, and even in Germany. Hell I almost went to the US in March to see someone after downloading their albums.
I've also had all my mates present at many of them - none of whome would know the music if not for my downloading.


Honestly, IMO there is no argument against that.

I get that it won't be this way for everyone, but they really need to consider things on a more individual bases and they will soon see that HELPING consumers will combat piracy 10x more than trying to stop it and putting road blocks in the way.

Look forward to finding out who complained - I might tweet them a pic of all their other products I actually own including my amazon pre-order of the ones I downloaded. See what they make of that!
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You make some great points and this is pretty much the exact same philosophy I go by. I have purchased a great many tv series complete boxsets on the strength of having watched them from downloading.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
You make some great points and this is pretty much the exact same philosophy I go by. I have purchased a great many tv series complete boxsets on the strength of having watched them from downloading.
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I do exactly the same however the 'powers that be' look at it like this "Yeah I know I've killed 10 people but I've just stopped somebody from killing somebody else so that makes it OK"
 
Yeah I think a lot of people use it because there is no better system out there to find out if something is worth your money.

Box Sets I've bought this week after watching 1-2 seasons of them, or 4-5 episodes:

Supernatural 1-8 Bluray
Falling Skies 1-2 Bluray (pre-ordered Season 3)
Smallville 1-10 DVD
Battlestar Galactica 1-4 box set Bluray

And 12 movies over the last 2 weeks.


There are many on Netflix too which is great, but by downloading them I've found more that I never knew about. Falling Skies is something I enjoyed massively yet wouldn't have even heard of it otherwise. Now, I'll be buying every season bluray they release - unless the shows quality nosedives.


I'm just awaiting the response. Plusnet have requested more details on my behalf and said they will get back to me in the next day or two.




EDIT: So the complaint is from Warner Bros about The Hobbit 2 - which I OWN on Bluray! lol (surprise surprise).
Hell, I actually seen it at the pics too so well done Warner Bros, you have complained at a person who has paid you twice for the same movie.

Ohhhh...what do we have here - Warner Bros ALSO do Supernatural and Smallville, both of which I have just ordered - and probalby 30 other things.

I'll take a pic of all WB related products I've purchased.


The copyright complaint we have received is as below; Copyright Holder: Warner Bros. - ------------- Infringement Details ---------------------------------- Title: The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Timestamp: 2014-04-16T09:42:12Z
 
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blitzwing85 said:
EDIT: So the complaint is from Warner Bros about The Hobbit 2 - which I OWN on Bluray! lol (surprise surprise).
Hell, I actually seen it at the pics too so well done Warner Bros, you have complained at a person who has paid you twice for the same movie.
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Yeah but to be fair their complaint is that you didn't pay for the dozens (or hundreds+) of people to whom you uploaded copies or part-copies to. :p

VPN FTW.

MooMoo444 said:
I'll have a consonant please.
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Atlas23 said:
Vowelpls
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Happy to help. :p
 
It just means users will have to change their behaviour eventually, that might mean they stop the downloading or for more savy users it might mean they find away around it.

A good start would be to just stop using torrent sites, not sure if private torrent sites would have the same issue.
 
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