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Those odds are based on getting 5 cards. In hold em you get 7 cards to make a hand so the odds are far lower.
As above, they make their money from the rake.
The only reasons they would rig the games is either to make poor players stay in for longer to gain more rake from them or because they have bots playing at the tables.
At the main sites like Party, PKR, Full Tilt etc. I would find this highly unlikely.
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The odds of the lesser hand winning, even for something trivial like a gutshot straight draw are as high as 17% over two cards - you're playing a lot more hands online than you would live, these things happen.
Again, these things aren't impossible and these are gripes everyone has with the game. Because you're playing a lot more hands you'll see a lot more of this happen. As for the odds of a royal flush, over five cards your odds of seeing one are something like ~1/600,000, or ~1/60,000 for a straight flush (my maths may be off somewhat). However in hold'em, seven cards are dealt. Couple that with the fact you're playing a lot more hands than you would in a live game, and you can add to the 'weird' things.2. I have had 7 str8 flushes and one royal flush and seen several others. They do say you might go all your life without seeing one.
It just seems that the weirdest results come out sometime. The other week there was three of us left. We had AA, KK, QQ and the flop was AKQ. Everybody was allin. The river was another Q. I don;t even want to try and calculate the odds of that happening (I had KK btw and thought I was onto a winner)
In general you will see many more hands playing online so statiscally you are going to see a lot of suck outs/odd play and it is of course these events that you will remember, instead of other normal hand that went by.
That said, money's involved and I'm pretty sure colusion is widespread in terms of teams playing at the same table corresponding via some 3rd party method. Of course all poker rooms claim to have mechanisms in place to detect such collusion, but I would imagine such activites are very hard to spot and/or prove.
Prior to the Ultimate Bet/Absolute Poker scandal I would have said that rigging on the part of the poker room or manipulation of the poker room software was impossible, due the innevitble risk of being caught, the lack of any real benefit and the consequences that would result. Following Ultimate Bet/Absolute Poker, lets just say I'm a little more sinicle. These were two and continue to be two major operators.
I don't play much online poker and the stuff I do is at reasonbly low limits (mostly $50 sit and gos), but I would be dubious about playing at high limits due to the possibilities and appeal of collusion.
That said, money's involved and I'm pretty sure colusion is widespread in terms of teams playing at the same table corresponding via some 3rd party method. Of course all poker rooms claim to have mechanisms in place to detect such collusion, but I would imagine such activites are very hard to spot and/or prove.
Prior to the Ultimate Bet/Absolute Poker scandal I would have said that rigging on the part of the poker room or manipulation of the poker room software was impossible, due the innevitble risk of being caught, the lack of any real benefit and the consequences that would result. Following Ultimate Bet/Absolute Poker, lets just say I'm a little more sinicle. These were two and continue to be two major operators.
I don't play much online poker and the stuff I do is at reasonbly low limits (mostly $50 sit and gos), but I would be dubious about playing at high limits due to the possibilities and appeal of collusion.
If you said specifically " in the next four hands I will be dealt 44 then 22 then 44 then 33 " then it is 2385443281/1. A specific pair is 221/1 so 221^4.
If you said " I will be dealt 4 pairs in the next 4 hands " then it is I think 17^4 = 83521/1.
Truth is you didn't do either of those things, you observed it after it had happened. So it isn't really /1, people like yourself are always looking for 'anomalies' and then report them as if they are something spectacular. Truth is they are nothing more than random chance.
The classic case is being dealt AA twice = 48841/1. Your only ever really looking for this is after you've been dealt aces the first time so it's more like 221/1.
But on the topic of mindless OMG look what happened, AA vs AA vs KK vs KK is possibly the craziest thing i've ever seen.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17992817
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17992817
Never thought about it as an after the fact thing, glad you pointed that out as it can't be a xxxxx/1 occurance.
However on the subject of AA, I think I see that pair come up at least 4 out of every 5 games.
I work for an online gambling company (not poker) and although all our games are supposedly fair and legit we see some really funny stuff. Jackpots that don't go for days and then 2 or 3 will go in the space of 6 hours. Some one being picked over and over out of 2-300 people when it should be random.
And free to play games where you don't use real money are rigged on every site, I don't care what they say. You will win a hell of a lot more on free to play games than pay to play games. Even on one of our sites I swear they are dodgy. But then, if you are not using real money you are not really gambling so they don't come under the same laws!
And free to play games where you don't use real money are rigged on every site, I don't care what they say. You will win a hell of a lot more on free to play games than pay to play games. Even on one of our sites I swear they are dodgy. But then, if you are not using real money you are not really gambling so they don't come under the same laws!
4 out of every 5?
If your playing 10 seater tables it should come up every 22 hands, you personally should get it every 221
Nope, I primarily play 1 on 1 heads up speed games, $5/$10 in, $10/$20 to the winner. The normally don't go beyond around 10-15 hands. Also with these games I find I win around 8 out of 10 games as opposed to winning 1 in about 5 tournaments.