Plane geeks on the forums?

Zip · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:03

KaHn said:
Most likely the F-22 Raptors.

KaHn

/edit :- their problems come from making a mach 2.4 unstable aircraft.

KaHn

Thats right

\o/

What are those Stealth fighters/bombers? They are big and black and kinda look like a triangle

These:

And what ones best and are there very many in the world?

Zip · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:04

KaHn said:
Most likely the F-22 Raptors.

KaHn

/edit :- their problems come from making a mach 2.4 unstable aircraft.

KaHn

Mach 2.4 is the fastest fighter jet built isnt it? :confused:

I heard it was problems with the software in the cockpit

stuppy · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:06

Eurofighter Typhoon owns everything.

Zip · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:08

stuppy said:
Eurofighter Typhoon owns everything.

IIRC ive read somewhere they have more problems then the F-22 :confused:

KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:08

Zip said:
Mach 2.4 is the fastest fighter jet built isnt it?

I heard it was problems with the software in the cockpit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22_Raptor

F-22 raptor is a predom a2a fighter which has the capability of dual roles, mach 2.4 is not the fastest a aircraft as flown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird

is so far the fastest with out including the use of ram/scram jets.

No the problems range from buffeting of the tail to problems with the release mechanism of the cockpit, tbh with the raptor atm it could be anything.

KaHn

KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:10

stuppy said:
Eurofighter Typhoon owns everything.

Really, so why is it that the EUROfighter is not in full use now in the +6 YRS! ffs the eurofighter was good in 2000 its still decent now but the mig-39 (yes i know that isnt official) is looking better and better by the day and the f-22 isnt far behind that.

KaHn

//Mike · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:14

I would like to see a comparisson between the new Mig-29OVT (Mig-35) and the F-22 in terms of a dog-fight.

KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:16

//Mike said:
I would like to see a comparisson between the new Mig-29OVT (Mig-35) and the F-22 in terms of a dog-fight.

wouldn't we all but in the end this would come down to piloting skills (as with all 5th gen). I think the mig-39 is still abit ahead of the f-22 in speed but the F-22 should have it in manouverability.

I'm not sure, in my eyes I hope the raptor is better, but thats me.

KaHn

/also for those reading mig-35 = mig-39 just different sources.

//Mike · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:20

KaHn said:
F-22 raptor is a predom a2a fighter which has the capability of dual roles, mach 2.4 is not the fastest a aircraft as flown.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird

is so far the fastest with out including the use of ram/scram jets.

KaHn

I believe the fastest fighter ever produced was one of the old Mig's? Think it might have been a -25 at mach 2.8 or something. The Sr-71 still holds the record of the fastest manned aircraft though.

Zip · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:22

How do people not die at Mach ridiculous speeds? :confused:

In WW2 people were blacking out in Spit fires, i know they wernt trained much but surly the body cant handle going that fast :confused:

Do they have to slow right down to turn? :confused:

KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:23

//Mike said:
I believe the fastest fighter ever produced was one of the old Mig's? Think it might have been a -25 at mach 2.8 or something. The Sr-71 still holds the record of the fastest manned aircraft though.

Yes as I miss pointed in my post, the SR-71 is not a fighter, but is believed to go upto 5+ (read somewhere years ago so can't provide links sorry).

But as with the ram/scram they have to be going around 4+ to become efficient so that puts pretty much everything out of its way then.

KaHn

//Mike · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:23

KaHn said:
wouldn't we all but in the end this would come down to piloting skills (as with all 5th gen). I think the mig-39 is still abit ahead of the f-22 in speed but the F-22 should have it in manouverability.

I'm not sure, in my eyes I hope the raptor is better, but thats me.

KaHn

/also for those reading mig-35 = mig-39 just different sources.

Project 1.44/42... It was at Fairford this weekend and was mighty impressive :cool:

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KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:24

Zip said:
How do people not die at Mach ridiculous speeds?
In WW2 people were blacking out in Spit fires, i know they wernt trained much but surly the body cant handle going that fast
Do they have to slow right down to turn?

Thats G not mach, at a constant speed you do not feel a net force, take travelling in your car at 70 mph.

If you went from 0 - 70 mph in a milisecond you would die, but as you accelerate gradually you don't, same with jets.

Although with turning and dog fights they are generally done at much slower speeds than max.

KaHn

KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:25

//Mike said:
Project 1.44/42... It was at Fairford this weekend and was mighty impressive .

I can imagine going to try and get to sunderland air show when its on.

KaHn

Blinkz · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:26

Plane geek here too, altho I know more about airliners then fighters, mainly due to having passed my ATPL exams and so having to have learned all about em

j00ni · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:26

KaHn said:
Although with turning and dog fights they are generally done at much slower speeds than max.

plus you have MASTs nowadays

KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:27

//Mike said:
Project 1.44/42..

Stop trying to confuse people

project 1.44/42 = mig-35 = mig-39 = mig-MFi = flatpack

KaHn

KaHn · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:29

j00ni said:
plus you have MASTs nowadays

sorry i dont mean to sound ignorant but MAST?

Never heard that before.

KaHn

//Mike · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:33

KaHn said:
Stop trying to confuse people

project 1.44/42 = mig-35 = mig-39 = mig-MFi = flatpack

KaHn

chrismox · 17 Jul 2006 at 02:36

Blinkz said:
Plane geek here too, altho I know more about airliners then fighters, mainly due to having passed my ATPL exams and so having to have learned all about em

Hi mate, you still in Phoenix?