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Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running

Discussion in 'Sports Arena' started by platypus, 26 Mar 2007.

  1. Reuben klang

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    200km* :D:D



    Good point, wonder if it is just a marketing ploy.
     
  2. Martynt74

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    Maybe. They do look pretty cool though.

    I got back from a run today and noticed a few holes developing on the upper which is annoying. I guess with trail shoes there’s a lot more opportunities to catch them on rocks/thorns etc. Hopefully they don’t get much worse as the trainers have loads of life left yet.
     
  3. SPG

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    Back on a training plan after some time off.... Running is hard even after 4 weeks off from doing very little.
     
  4. neoboy

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    Yup, really feeling it now after neglecting regular running schedule for some months.
     
  5. SoliD

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    Sorry forgot to say thanks for these responses. I'll keep an eye out over the next few weeks on gumtree and see if anything pops up.
     
  6. SPG

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    Two runs in a row.... Not had DOMS for a long while...me not like :)
     
  7. jsmoke

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  8. dwarf

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    The 4D midsole technology is currently very much on the gimmick side of things for now. This particular one is supposedly designed for heel strikers to allow the lattice to compress to push you forward. Many other technologies exist to do much the same thing. The most tried/tested one in my view being the rocker sole. This particular shoe is quite heavy and definitely on the expensive side at £170. Personally I would avoid with the only reason for buying it would be if you particularly like the look of the 4D midsole.

    If you want recommendations for a a similar shoe (daily trainer for a heel striker) you cant go wrong with a New Balance 1080 or Nike Pegasus 38. If you particularly like this 4D technology in terms of it's forward propulsion technology, I'd take a look at a rocker style shoe like the Hoka Clifton 8 or Asics Glideride 2. All of these shoes are much cheaper too.
     
  9. Blackvault

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    Does anyone have any recommendations for shoes that help to support the outside of the foot as I tend to land on it and roll inwards.
     
  10. div0

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    I forget how much knowledge and experience different people here have, so apologies if anything you already know but you get shoes which are designed for people who pronate (which I think is what you're describing).

    I've not a lot of experience of that sort of thing but I'd be cautious about changing from "normal" shoes unless you already have injury problems. I'm sure someone here will be able to advise though.
     
  11. Reuben klang

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    Thanks. I won’t bother then. FWIW I run in a pair of Pegasus 38.
     
  12. Martynt74

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    It's easy to forget how incredible some people are.

    I had a run this morning that ticked the 100km in a month badge on Strava. I clicked on it and saw the leaderboard with the top runner having done ~1500km this month. I thought "surely this guy is mixing up activities and includes some bike rides"....Nope, all running ticking around 40 miles a day for a "morning run". What's even more impressive is that he's not even very quick with yesterdays being done ~14 min/mile. So the run took ~10 hours. It makes you wonder what the rest of his day is like to be able to focus so much time consistently on running, his stats show ~60hrs a week of running, burning ~8000 calories on a regular basis.

    Plus he's a firefighter, so a fairly physical job otherwise!

    What was also amusing is just how flat his runs are. YTD he's done ~20x as many miles as me, yet only 5x my ascent.

    https://www.strava.com/activities/5840879808
     
  13. dwarf

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    It's difficult to properly advise without actually seeing the footstrike. Pronation, landing on your outside edge and rolling inwards through the footstrike to push off the front of the foot, is entirely normal. Issues can arise with overpronation, where this roll inwards is excessive, or supination, where this roll inwards does not occur. @Blackvault you really need to get down to a specialist running store that can analyse your footstrike and recommend you suitable shoes. However, as div0 says, if you're not getting injured just stick with whatever works for you now. A shoe that forces you away from your natural footstrike can cause more injury than it prevents.
     
  14. Martynt74

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    Have ordered a set of the Aftershokz Aeropex. What's pretty annoying is they seem to be online only for most stores so can't try them out. Have ordered from Amazon so that returns are easy enough.
    Always feels a bit crappy doing that just to try them out. Hopefully they're good enough but it's a shame that i can't compare the different products in the range side by side. Have started cycling and so having open earphones would be pretty useful. My only concern is that most reviews suggest they're for podcasts/voice and music is less good. @AndyCr15 i think i saw you had some, how are they for music? I don't need to get every last bit of detail from every song when running but i also don't want them to be useless.

    I'm not sure if it's just me, but my cheaper headphones seem to be losing battery strength and so they only last an hour or so these days. I seem to have about 6 pairs of bluetooth headphones in various drawers now because they still "work" just not well enough to be my main set!
     
  15. jsmoke

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    Can't understand how his body takes that.
     
  16. neoboy

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    I mean, I can't understand how some of you guys run what you do and yet you in turn are in awe of others, it's all relative :D
     
  17. dwarf

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    I've been using Aftershokz Aeropex for almost 2 years now. They are certainly not useless for music, they are very good for the rock music I listen to. They do lack a bit of bass and clarity which you don't really miss that much with podcasts but you might with music if you are used to good headphones. You're never going to get quite the same sound quality as traditional headphones as there's (obviously) no sound isolation at all. I would say the sound quality is something like as good as the cheap earphones you would get with an iPhone. I think they are fantastic for running, they are really comfortable and I completely forget I have them in. They allow me to remain aware of my surroundings even at high volume I would not hesitate to buy them again or recommend them.
     
  18. Martynt74

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    Excellent. That’s all I’d be hoping for sound wise really. I have decent headphones for around the house etc but I don’t need that when out and about.

    Especially with aiming for extra cycling volume, it’d be good to have music for long rides without risking my life!

    Tempting for off road runs too. I don’t usually bother with headphones when I’m out on moors etc and like to hear the surrounding wildlife but some faint music in the background would help with some grind too.

    They’d be ideal for when I’m pottering in the garden too and my wife gets annoyed with me having headphones in and being unable to hear her (although maybe in ears are better in that situation:p)
     
  19. AndyCr15

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    I personally would disagree with this. I have plenty of £30 Bluetooth headphones that I would happily listen to music on, but the Aeropex, I just wouldn't bother. I love them for podcasts and would suggest they are good as in ear headphones for the spoken word, but I personally think music sounds terrible on them (and I'm far from an audiophile btw)
     
  20. SPG

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    Love my Aeropex, Sure they may not be top class for music but they are perfectly acceptable. Found them great on long haul flights with ear plugs as well.

    Top bit of kit.