Platypus' Beginners Guide to Running

My wife has a little thing and she mentioned it comes with some tens pads, so i'm now sat at my desk with little electrical things buzzing through my knee! No idea if it'll make a difference.

Did 3 miles at dinner and felt absolutely fine so that's a bonus.
 
I’m struggling a lot today with a tight/sore back, I think it’s connected to the knee pain I experienced on Sunday as it’s on the same side. It’s ****** me off big time as I doubt I’ll be able to go for a run this week as it’s painful landing on one foot.

Not to turn it medical or anything but has anyone ever used a chiropractor? I just don’t want this to be a recurring theme but also don’t want to waste my money!

Glad you felt fine on your run, always a bonus.
 
My wife saw a chiropractor and was very complimentary about the results and found they made a huge difference. I've not been personally, although i have tried to start having a regular massage each month just to try and keep on top of issues.
 
Interesting to note thank you, I am sorely tempted as I know I've spent years of my life with extremely poor posture/slouching and I'm obviously paying for it now. Always thought I'd stay young and fit forever :o Massage is a good shout, something I may look into if I am to continue running. I mean I have nothing to aid recovery at the moment so I guess it will take its toll.
 
Funny enough I too have some recent aches and pains.
One is a pulled tendon right in front of my knee, think I strained it at work.
The other is hip pain down my left quad, with some sciatica.
Shame, as I'm really starting to get quicker.

The weathers rough for the next few days, so might have some r&r.
The upshot is I'll come back even faster, as I'll be on keto the whole time.
 
Sounds like we’re all a bunch of crocs!

I had a 25ish mile event yesterday. Baffling sometimes with elevation as garmin had the route as 3500ft when I loaded the GPX and yet everyone’s Strava afterwards says ~4500ft. Not sure how it can differ so much!

Run itself was a bit rubbish. Very muddy and boggy. I actually lost a shoe in one muddy bit and came close on a few other occasions. Also had a lot of stomach issues throughout which wasn’t ideal. Ended up around 45 minutes slower than I’d have liked.

On the plus side. Got home and stuck on those recovery tights. Today I feel fine. My ankles are a little achey but muscle wise I feel fine. That’s a win in my book!
 
Sounds like we’re all a bunch of crocs!

It does sound that way doesn't it :cry::( Fantastic effort for yesterday though despite conditions, sounds like you had to really dig in!

@hux How do you find keto and running? I have tried keto once, this was way before I started running but I must admit I felt awesome after a couple of weeks (long term energy was through the roof for me personally), I just didn't want to cut out a whole food group so I eventually stopped.

I managed a decent long run yesterday, surprised with how I felt at the beginning of the week. I wanted to go quicker at points but my knee is definitely still a little iffy, no pain but felt there could be if I went too fast. I still shaved 6 minutes off my previous PB half marathon so I'm happy with the progress I'm making. Under 2 hours is the next goal!

Hopefully everyone feels better after some rest and all aches & pains go away!
 
Great work on getting to a HM distance already. doesn’t feel like long ago you were doing the 5k plan!
I always think sun 2hr is that kind of point where you feel like you’re a “runner” if that makes sense.
 
Thanks, it does just feel like yesterday doesn't it but it must have been a good 6 months ago now! I still remember looking forward to the walking breaks on the 5k plan now I get frustrated having to wait to cross the road :D

Yeah it makes sense so I know what you mean, just got to shave 30 seconds off my average pace and I'll be under 2 hours. One day hopefully!
 
To be fair my logic for times isn’t perfect

5k 25 mins
10k 60 mins
HM 2hrs
Full Marathon 4hrs

I know they don’t really make sense and the 10k one is pretty damn easy. I guess I just like rounding (Although I run a lot and have done for years and am a long way from a 4hr marathon!)

These recovery tights are good. Woke up today feeling fine. Bit of joint ache in my ankles and knees but muscle wise was fine. Even managed a 10 mile run with little issue.
Obviously no idea if it’s the tights or not but I’m giving them credit. Just a shame they’re so expensive!
 
I like your logic :-)

Has anyone done any work on what happens to times if nothing except weight changes? Presume injury risk drops, but does speed increase at all? or does speed remain similar but endurance or whatever goes up?
 
In theory speed should increase as there's less weight to propel forward.

I would say i've noticed a small increase in speed over the last month where my "easy" pace is often down around 9:15-9:30 rather than 9:30-9:45 and that's with ~5kg of weight loss. Although it's difficult to prove given so many other factors.

Decent article here
https://enertor.com/blogs/enertors/body-weight-faster-race-times#:~:text=On average, they lost 1.4,per mile to your run.&text=The reduction in weight lead,per mile increase in speed.

On average, they lost 1.4 seconds per mile per pound. For example, if you carry an extra 10 pounds, you’ll add 14 seconds per mile to your run.

I guess that pretty much fits in line with my findings.
 
Hmm...

So based on that, I could potentially cut around 98 seconds per mile by getting down towards my "Ideal" weight. That will take some dedication though!
 
@Bunko It's not bad. There's been no big surge in energy, if anything it's lower
but that's more down to cutting calories, and eating only twice a day.
I just have something carb laden prior, currently it's a jelly block
seems to work great.

As for performance with weight loss improvements, it's slow and incremental
biggest difference is on hills, I'm slowly getting a taste of what it's like.
 
This might come as a shock but it’s a terrible idea to go for a run in stormy conditions, an hour after you’ve had a huge homemade burger and chips for tea followed by 2 cream cakes your daughter brings home from work on the same day as a squat/deadlift session in the gym!
 
Good shout with the jelly block, I may try that myself :D Sounds like you had a fun run @Martynt74, I must admit I did want to go for a run last night while it was windy/rainy, just something appealed but alas I was at work, probably for the best mind :cry:

Just managed to get a new 5k/1 mile PB according to strava though, not quite under 25 minutes for the 5k but getting closer. Just trying to incorporate a fast run in the week as well as the steadier runs. Speaking of which, regarding the 80/20 rule should the harder 20% be run as fast as I can or just at a quicker pace than the easier runs?
 
Good shout with the jelly block, I may try that myself :D Sounds like you had a fun run @Martynt74, I must admit I did want to go for a run last night while it was windy/rainy, just something appealed but alas I was at work, probably for the best mind :cry:

Just managed to get a new 5k/1 mile PB according to strava though, not quite under 25 minutes for the 5k but getting closer. Just trying to incorporate a fast run in the week as well as the steadier runs. Speaking of which, regarding the 80/20 rule should the harder 20% be run as fast as I can or just at a quicker pace than the easier runs?

Generally it should be at a fairly hard intensity, so if using HR then it should be Zone 4/5. It isn't nesecerily just a single fast run though. It could be hill reps/sprints where you're pushing it for say 6 reps of 1 minute and then backing off and recovering inbetween as it's very difficult to hold that level of intensity.

One good session i enjoy depending on the hill level of where you live is to just do an easy style run, but then really try and attack the hills. Then recover back at easy pace on the descent/flats. You need something with lots of short steepish hills though for something like that though. If you can find a local loop it'd work too.
Another option is just to throw in some faster work at the end of your normal sessions rather than have a specific speed session. I think that still counts as it's around the weekly combined time at easy/hard rather than individual sessions. So do 4 miles of easy running and then 8x 15 second sprints with a 30 second walk in between.
 
Makes sense thank you, I like the idea of going for it on hills and recovering downhill. I'll always try and get a hill in on a run, nowhere near your standards mind! I'm still surprised how fast my heart rate recovers after a hill, I guess that is showing fitness levels are increasing?
 
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