Playstation 3 - Money Opportunity?

Kreeeee said:
N64 > PS1
SNES technically superior to MD (no visual difference mind)

If you like awful pixilated graphics, awful response times and horrendous sound/music then yep, it was.

N64 was good for Goldeneye, Mario racing and Conkers. Most of the games looked like they hadn't even gone through beta phases.
 
I think this should be locked, its gone so off topic its going backwards.

We dont care how powerful it is compared to what console. :mad:
 
N64 pixellated? What are you on?

It used bilinear filtering and aa.
 
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PiKe said:
N64 pixellated? What are you on?

It used bilinear filtering and aa.

No one had ever heard of those when it came out? I personally don't even see the basis for of a PS v N64 argument, because the PS is vastly superior in terms of graphics and gameplay, as well as frame rate, control and response times.

The guy above is right though, this will just be another petty argument and so I'll take back what I said.
 
Tommy B said:
If you like awful pixilated graphics, awful response times and horrendous sound/music then yep, it was.

N64 was good for Goldeneye, Mario racing and Conkers. Most of the games looked like they hadn't even gone through beta phases.
Wow, how wrong are you. N64 was the opposite of pixelated. Everything was blurry. N64 stomped all over the PS1 graphically, not that it matters.
 
when does the ps3 become availilbe for preorder from GAME? im going to use my student loan to get one and sell it, if i cant it goes straight back to game
 
Kreeeee said:
Wow, how wrong are you. N64 was the opposite of pixelated. Everything was blurry. N64 stomped all over the PS1 graphically, not that it matters.

Complete and utter rubbish! It certainly did not stomp over the PS.
Anyone who isn't blind would notice that whilst the PS was at the beginning stages of "Photo-realistic" rendering, the N64 churned out cartoon-style crap.

When the PS first came out, yes the graphics weren't great, but after a year or two games were much more impressive.
 
Tommy B said:
Complete and utter rubbish! It certainly did not stomp over the PS.
Anyone who isn't blind would notice that whilst the PS was at the beginning stages of "Photo-realistic" rendering, the N64 churned out cartoon-style crap.

When the PS first came out, yes the graphics weren't great, but after a year or two games were much more impressive.
So... you're talking about "mature" artistic styles rather than any actual technical ability?

Ok, as long as we're both aware what rubbish you're spouting. The PS could never manage banjo tooie, zelda majoras mask, perfect dark, conkers bad for day etc... but then again technical ability is not your argument is it?

Edit: polygon counts are useless though as sony are known for grossly exaggerating their count and nintendo are known for underestimating (GameCube Rogue leader anyone?)

cheets64 said:
Nobody knows.

I want to know too so I can do the same.
 
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Kreeeee said:
So... you're talking about "mature" artistic styles rather than any actual technical ability?

Ok, as long as we're both aware what rubbish you're spouting. The PS could never manage banjo tooie, zelda majoras mask, perfect dark, conkers bad for day etc... but then again technical ability is not your argument is it?

All those games you listed played about as smoothly as a cinefilm projector. Conkers was absolutely TERRIBLE in terms of smooth gameplay, and looked like it was running at 15fps. To put this in perspective, I'm sure the PS2 could probably render a game at 360 graphics, although it would run at about 2fps. On the other hand, most PS games were smooth and a joy to play.

For the record, it's that "mature" artistic style that has led ALL the next generation consoles.
 
Most N64 games were quite bad in terms of frame rate, compared with today, but the PS was just as bad also.
Its just far more apparent when going back and playing them now than it was at the time.

About the original topic though:
I dont think that its worth buying a few PS3's and making a profit by selling them at inflated prices. Yes you can pat yourself on the back for making a few extra quid, yes your mates will say how good you are at future planning and making money.
But look at it like this, those extra 2-3 consoles you buy are going to be 2-3 people missing out for the price that they should be selling at. How would you feel if you really wanted a console, but someone else bought more than they needed, then offered to sell you the same console that you want at an inflated price?
 
BoomAM said:
But look at it like this, those extra 2-3 consoles you buy are going to be 2-3 people missing out for the price that they should be selling at. How would you feel if you really wanted a console, but someone else bought more than they needed, then offered to sell you the same console that you want at an inflated price?

Thats my view on it too, consoles not being available to genuine buyers at the proper price - something I would never do.

Still, thats exploitation for you :/
 
BoomAM said:
But look at it like this, those extra 2-3 consoles you buy are going to be 2-3 people missing out for the price that they should be selling at. How would you feel if you really wanted a console, but someone else bought more than they needed, then offered to sell you the same console that you want at an inflated price?

I completely disagree.
Everyone has exactly the same opportunity to pre-order one or more.
Some people leave everything to the last minute and hope for the best.
No-one is going to physically suffer if they don't get a PS3 on release day, they've lived without it thus far.
No-one is going to pay more than they are prepared to pay for a PS3. In other words if someone pays 3 times the retail price because they were too slow / lazy / stupid to preorder one and are not prepared to wait a couple of months then why on earth should anyone feel sorry for them? They clearly have more money than sense and deserve to lose it.

PS3 is going to be in short supply. If you want one pre-order it. Failing that you'll have to wait a couple of months or pay over the odds. If anyone is to blame then blame yourself for not getting your backside in gear and blame Sony for not making enough.
 
VIRII said:
Everyone has exactly the same opportunity to pre-order one or more.

And what would happen if all pre-orders were taken up by people hoarding consoles for personal profit. What happens to the person who isn't being slow/lazy/stupid and wanted to pre-order one purely for themselves? Is it still their fault then?
 
Nismo said:
And what would happen if all pre-orders were taken up by people hoarding consoles for personal profit. What happens to the person who isn't being slow/lazy/stupid and wanted to pre-order one purely for themselves? Is it still their fault then?

If everyone has the same opportunity then it can only be their fault can't it, failing that Sony for not producing enough consoles.
No-one *has* to pay over the odds for a console, people *can* wait.

At the end of the day money talks so if you don't have the cash then you've either got to wait a little longer or pay over the odds or get in straight away.
That's life really.

I'd like a nice Porsche 911, they should make them cheaper so I can afford one, it isn't fair :(

Edit: PS3 pre-orders are now being taken at 2 internet retailers (mainstream ones) so if you want one I strongly suggest you get in there asap.
 
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I hate people like this, and you are scum. Yes, you are scum.

I hate people who buy a product in this way and then sell it on for a higher cost. There are people who have been waiting years to enjoy this console and it's costing a lot anyways without morons like you buying up stock and selling it at higher cost.

God, I wish there were less people like you in the world.
 
Atomic said:
I hate people like this, and you are scum. Yes, you are scum.

I hate people who buy a product in this way and then sell it on for a higher cost. There are people who have been waiting years to enjoy this console and it's costing a lot anyways without morons like you buying up stock and selling it at higher cost.

God, I wish there were less people like you in the world.


;)

It's a Dog-Eat-Dog-World, mate.

VIRII said:
Edit: PS3 pre-orders are now being taken at 2 internet retailers (mainstream ones) so if you want one I strongly suggest you get in there asap.


Which, been on about 6 sites and nothing.
 
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cheets64 said:
;)

It's a Dog-Eat-Dog-World, mate.

Yeah. True.

Perhaps I should go out and buy all the property in the world and sell it to people for extortionate fees. Meh, I suppose the thread starter would be left without an affordable property.

Shame.

The world goes on.
 
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Atomic said:
I hate people like this, and you are scum. Yes, you are scum.

I hate people who buy a product in this way and then sell it on for a higher cost. There are people who have been waiting years to enjoy this console and it's costing a lot anyways without morons like you buying up stock and selling it at higher cost.

God, I wish there were less people like you in the world.

ROFL :D

I hate whining muppets who bleat about life not being fair and blame everyone else for their own inabilities, failures and situations.
Money makes the world go around, manufacturers aim to sell at a profit, wholesalers sell at a profit, retailers sell at a profit and ebay monkeys sell at a profit.
That is the way the world works. Profit is what motivates Sony to design the PS3, to manufacture it, to sell it. Get over it.

"people have been waiting years to enjoy this console....." then a few more months won't kill them will it :)

As for people making a profit being scum ... what cobblers. If they were selling babies, or body parts or life saving stuff at incredible markups then that would be pretty inhuman. However we are talking about a games console. Get a grip, get some perspective, get it pre-ordered if you want it so badly.
 
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