PlayStation 4 Pro in-bound

Yeah, it will still still take advantage of 4k. Even people with 1080p tvs will see improvements as well in the IQ, effects etc...
 
Jae-So said:
Exactly I've seen many case where the TVs being compared are not set up correctly to make the premium one look better.
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I really doubt that's what is going on. I've seen plenty of premium TV's running content that isn't fully utilizing what the display can do and have woefully poor settings being used.

I agree that seeing a TV properly set up in a home would be the best way to shop for a new TV, but who on earth has that kind of access? :/ Do you have some massive library of rich friends you can phone up to check out their TV's to do a bunch of comparisons?
 
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Seanspeed said:
I really doubt that's what is going on. I've seen plenty of premium TV's running content that isn't fully utilizing what the display can do and have woefully poor settings being used.

I agree that seeing a TV properly set up in a home would be the best way to shop for a new TV, but who on earth has that kind of access? :/ Do you have some massive library of rich friends you can phone up to check out their TV's to do a bunch of comparisons?
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No I don't, but I'll wait until it is more mainstream and I have a few friends that do. I simply said I'm not investing until I can see it in a someone's home. That's a personal finance decision.
I'm not sure why it irks you so much that I am choosing this route. If HDR is important to you then buy a screen with it lol (or enjoy it if you have it).
 
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Jae-So said:
No I don't, but I'll wait until it is more mainstream and I have a few friends that do. I simply said I'm not investing until I can see it in a someone's home. That's a personal finance decision.
I'm not sure why it irks you so much that I am choosing this route. If HDR is important to you then buy a screen with it lol (or enjoy it if you have it).
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I dont know where you're getting the idea that it 'irks' me. :/

I was merely questioning your notion that shops are trying to mislead people on how good HDR is. If you go to a store and are impressed by what you see from some Premium 4k HDR screen, they are not fooling you. They cannot make the display look better than what it is capable of. It's a perfectly viable way to shop for a new TV.
 
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Seanspeed said:
I dont know where you're getting the idea that it 'irks' me. :/

I was merely questioning your notion that shops are trying to mislead people on how good HDR is. If you go to a store and are impressed by what you see from some Premium 4k HDR screen, they are not fooling you. They cannot make the display look better than what it is capable of. It's a perfectly viable way to shop for a new TV.
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Ah okay, my comment was in general that in store pictures are misleading, not directly at HDR :)
I know a fair few people working in retail where they confirm the feed provided to less premium screen is worse and it isn't calibrated properly etc. As explained in my previous reply, I never claimed they would make the picture better, however direct comparisons are difficult when the other screens are not setup to show them at their best.

In addition, I want to see it in an every day environment and source material to judge if it would make a significant difference for me. Having just got some TVs that is doubtful, s'all I'm saying :)
 
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The demos they put on TVs in shops are designed to advertise its features.

What you use it for might not play on those strenghts. Thats not the manufacturers or retailers fault.

Its not all solely about how it is calibrated.

If you want the best from your TV you will need to provide it with the best sources for your viewing pleasure.
 
I have to agree about HDR. I have the Panasonic DX902, uset to have a 4K tv before and the difference on my DX902 HDR is night and day. Standard Bluray against 4K HDR is so different, HDR is the biggest improvement since SD to HD.

This is a premium UHD TV with 1292 peak nits. HDR LED are far better than OLED at present due to peak nits, OLED has true blacks but until it can output at over 1000 nits HDR is best viewed on LED.

I have pre ordered my PS4 Pro as HDR truly is a hugh upgrade!
 
JoeBoi said:
The demos they put on TVs in shops are designed to advertise its features.

What you use it for might not play on those strenghts. Thats not the manufacturers or retailers fault.

Its not all solely about how it is calibrated.

If you want the best from your TV you will need to provide it with the best sources for your viewing pleasure.
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Again that's my point. I have simply said that this is not a good way for me to decide if it is for me as the difference may be exaggerated in store (compared to other screens) and not representative of my usage. Furthermore it isn't a good time for me to get in on it.

Or are we not allowed to express personal opinions here :D (this is in jest so it is clear)

I'm just saying in 3-5 years time there will be some additional features which will truly make it worth me making the jump.
 
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Jae-So said:
Again that's my point. I have simply said that this is not a good way for me to decide if it is for me as the difference may be exaggerated in store
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It's not, though. They cant make the display look better than it is capable of, as I've said several times now. And more often, they are *under*-utilizing what the TV is capable of.

If you dont have an eye for what is impressive, then maybe you're not the sort that should be in the market for high fidelity displays in the first place.
 
I have said many times I'm comparing to the other TVs that are not setup correctly in my experience.
Cool I guess my eye is not in your superior league.
Let's agree to disagree, enjoy your HDR I'll catch up in a few years with more mainstream OLED :)
 
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I have said many times I'm comparing to the other TVs that are not setup correctly in my experience.
Cool I guess my eye is not in your superior league.
Let's agree to disagree, enjoy your HDR I'll catch up in a few years with more mainstream OLED :)
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IMO I totally agree it's not worth buying into this early.

There isn't enough source which will make the most of it.

I don't know how much I buy about the more expensive TVs being calibrated better. I think it's just a higher end model with more bells n whistles.
 
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I don't know how much I buy about the more expensive TVs being calibrated better. I think it's just a higher end model with more bells n whistles.
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Yeh I'll admit some of the really expensive sets (I'm talking silly money, mainly OLED that can completely switch off individual pixels) were fairly sweet looking but I've discounted these as they are waaaay out of my price range anyway.
I see these as tech demos for what is to come in my price range years from now.

Apparently I can open up HDR compatibility with the latest Samsung evo pack on my main TV but again I'm not paying £300/£400 for that. :p Would probs be a poor attempt at HDR anyway as I don't think it was built with HDR in mind.

Edit: We should probably get back on topic. Anyone heard anything new on the Pro?
I am hoping Uncharted 4 has a day 1 patch as I've not played that yet. Me and my mates will blast through that together in one sitting.
Horizon zero dawn looks sweeeet as well :D
 
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There is a list that shows what games will be ps4 pro enhanced but doesn't say when the older games will be patched, I'm glad ff 15 has been ps4 pro enabled as from what I read the difference is huge and not just in visuals but frames and over all performance
 
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