PlayStation 4 Pro in-bound

[antijoke]

At present I feel a ps4 pro is worth it just for the death zamboni in destiny's new raid lol

For those of us that don't play Destiny, what's the deal here?

 

[antijoke]

For 99% of the time Destiny on the PS4 chugs along at a rock solid 30fps.

In the latest PVE raid there is one section where the framerate takes a nosedive (down to ~15-20fps) for what seems like no reason (it doesn't happen in arguably more resource intensive areas with similar/identical particle effects).

I have run the section multiple times and sometimes it is fine and others it nosedives. Bungle (developers) are investigating.

Bungle?

 

[antijoke]

I thought Sony said MP would be the same frame rate across both consoles so no competitive advantage?

They did day that.

http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/8/12846740/playstation-pro-won-t-buy-you-much-of-an-online-advantage

 

[antijoke]

Yes Sony did say no competitive edge.. but titles such as BF4/BF1 are "advertised" as 60 FPS in multiplayer.. it's just the standard PS4 doesn't achieve that in most circumstances.

The PS4 Pro "should" be able to maintain that 60 FPS.

CoD has been advertised as 60FPS for years, and look at that.

People are just reaching and setting expectations for themselves to be disappointed when this thing actually comes out.

 

[antijoke]

Erm......I don't think he actually means they dual dual GPU in the Pro guys they just doubled up on everything...

 

[antijoke]

I need to see HDR in the flesh, I won't make use of it when I get my Pro. I have two non-HDR 4K TVs and I don't plan on changing for 5 or so years. I guess by then we'll have some new screen technology like 8k OLED or something.

I saw HDR in person on a TV when I popped into Currys for something, was quite blown away by it to be honest, I had no idea it was that good.

 

[antijoke]

People claiming that downsampling is amazing, whilst this is true but it's very intensive resource wise from I've seen.

 

[antijoke]

The PS4 Pro is still going to be bottle necked by the CPU, so in CPU intensive games things will still struggle.

 

[antijoke]

I often wondered this, how does the PS4 CPU part compare to the Intel Core i processors?

Nowhere near, the PS4 CPU is a pretty weak laptop grade CPU.

 

[antijoke]

Because a CPU and a GPU do very different types of jobs and calculations and they are better at their own types of calculations, a basic overly simple explanation and there's better resources out there that will tell you the differences in a lot more detail.

Although as you see GPU's are really stepping up there role in the modern computer.

 

[antijoke]

I knew I wasn't going mad. Skyrim:SE runs pretty well on the Xbone and PS4 which suggests it's not using the full power of those consoles. Which is probably why



(digital foundry)

What are you saying here?

 

[antijoke]

What are you saying because you lost me.

Sorry, I'm just a bit lost at why you weren't going mad and unsure on the DF roundup.

 

[antijoke]

Either Sony has not made many or people are snapping them up as if it was the PS5.

I seem to remember reading initial manufacturing numbers were not that high.

 

[antijoke]

Pick mine up on launch day, already sold my vanilla PS4 so ready and waiting !!

On question though, not seen this covered anywhere, can you tell by looking at your PSN friends list who has a Pro and who hasnt ?. You can (or used to) see who subscribed to PSN by a small symbol on your avatar - just wondering if there's something similar for Pros ?

No there isn't AFAIK.

 

[antijoke]

Don't happen to have battlefield one you could report back on ?

Well there is no patch for it yet so he won't be able to tell you anything.

 

[antijoke]

Still should get upscale on 4k v and possibly run smoother on the pro?

People still don't get it?

The Pro will make no difference to old games that are not patched by the dev to take advantage of the Pro. I'm talking performance here, not the upscaling.

 

[antijoke]

At this point people don't know if the Pro upgrades were on the disc or not.

Have to wait and see.

 

[antijoke]

Surely more cpu or gpu power doesnt require patch to give better frame rates if previously struggled due to lack of these. I also have not played it on ps4 on 4k tv, hence don't know how it looks.

Why are people still this clueless about the Pro?

Does nobody read anything?

 

[antijoke]

is there any reviews or anything stating the ps4 pro is gonna run some games at a smooth 60fps at 1080 now? wouldnt mind one if so

Which games?

 

[antijoke]

Sony have thrown their guidelines out of the window already with the Pro. They originally said every game from October onwards had to have a Pro mode at launch and devs weren't allowed to add it at a later time.

Did they actually ever officially say this? I can't remember due to all the leaks and things.