Plus-sized traveler demands free seats

SpellowHouse · 19 Apr 2023 at 15:36

tyke_ said:
being fat is 99% down to the persons life choices aka eating too much.

I agree. Like it or not, being overweight is at very least "failing to make the right choices", and the person alone is responsible. Trying to palm it off as anything else is just a form of denial. These people need to stop stuffing themselves and take control of their lives instead of being angry with the rest of the world who's fault it most certainly isn't.

I did pretty much the same in my own life. I started putting on weight and got to about 270lbs. I have slimmed down now to 180lbs and every darn day it's hard staying at that weight! It's not a one time decision. Every day you have to repeat the same decision over and over.

Mesai · 19 Apr 2023 at 15:41

They already have luggage scales and those measuring stands for suitcases - same should apply to people.

bigmike20vt · 19 Apr 2023 at 15:46

my ex mother in law used to argue the same ........ probably because she constantly got caught out being overweight in her suitcase.

she was biased however as she was tiny. i absolutely do not agree with the woman in the OP, and accept being overweight is a life choice problem..... but as a person with a high BMI I do find some of the views on here quite sad if being serious.

forcibly weighing someone before getting on a plane seems pretty callous to me unless absolutely necessary (like in a small helicopter)

and yes i did once get turned away on one of the slides at alton towers water park. it was utterly humiliating.

i dunno if anyone has been there, but one of the slides has a scale before you get on it..... i got on it and big red light comes on and i had to do the walk of shame down the stairs after everyone had seen me light up.

unfortunately the other scales they had to discretely weigh before queuing were broken......... the limit is 17 stone iirc. ....... i risked it becuase the cyclone slide at centre parcs has the same weight limit but no one bothers there.

Mesai · 19 Apr 2023 at 16:12

bigmike20vt said:
forcibly weighing someone before getting on a plane seems pretty callous to me unless absolutely necessary (like in a small helicopter)

If they did they'd have to do it for everyone to avoid discrimination.

I'm honestly surprised that they don't have some sort of system already given that their biggest cost is fuel, but I guess they already do that with baggage.

413x · 19 Apr 2023 at 16:15

Ryanair will. Cotton on and start charging for combined person+luggage.

Which really, is generally, I have no issue with.
Flying is a luxury, and we are not entitled to it.

Would also make it easy at home. Could just stand on scales with your luggage, and that's the cost.

Demon · 19 Apr 2023 at 16:17

bigmike20vt said:
i absolutely do not agree with the woman in the OP, and accept being overweight is a life choice problem..... but as a person with a high BMI I do find some of the views on here quite sad if being serious.

and yes i did once get turned away on one of the slides at alton towers water park. it was utterly humiliating.

It was going on a long haul flight and having to (shudder) ask for a seat belt extension that finally motivated me to lose eight (11st over 18 months).. however, 4 years later, and I've piled a load of it back on.. so much so, I won't fly commerically at the moment.
(Don't feel sorry for me, I am exceedingly fortunate to have access to a very nice private jet for business travel..

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413x said:
Ryanair will. Cotton on and start charging for combined person+luggage.

Which really, is generally, I have no issue with.
Flying is a luxury, and we are not entitled to it.

Would also make it easy at home. Could just stand on scales with your luggage, and that's the cost.

I think Ryan air prove flying is most certainly not a luxury

I do agree though, hence I would support the option of allowing people to buy an extra seat to give them extra room, some 'thinnies' would probably take up that offer on cheaper flights...

413x · 19 Apr 2023 at 16:19

Demon said:
It was going on a long haul flight and having to (shudder) ask for a seat belt extension that finally motivated me to lose eight (11st over 18 months).. however, 4 years later, and I've piled a load of it back on.. so much so, I won't fly commerically at the moment.
(Don't feel sorry for me, I am exceedingly fortunate to have access to a very nice private jet for business travel.. )

I think Ryan air prove flying is most certainly not a luxury

This is true. Easy jet isn't much more expensive, and even though still budget, I felt it was a better experience.

Demon · 19 Apr 2023 at 16:23

413x said:
This is true. Easy jet isn't much more expensive, and even though still budget, I felt it was a better experience.

When our kids were young we used Easyjet a lot, it was great, very good with free pushchair allowance, priority boarding for free, really family orientated.. we went Ryanair twice and it was chalk and cheese..

Not sure how they all stack these days..

I just realised I hadn't even checked out the OP! :eek , OK , we are talking a whole new level of 'plus size' than I was envisaging.. see how she is so happy to be the size of a house and wants the world to bend around her (insert some joke about gravity)? For the record, I don't agree at all.

bigmike20vt · 19 Apr 2023 at 16:25

Demon said:
It was going on a long haul flight and having to (shudder) ask for a seat belt extension that finally motivated me to lose eight (11st over 18 months).. however, 4 years later, and I've piled a load of it back on.. so much so, I won't fly commerically at the moment.
(Don't feel sorry for me, I am exceedingly fortunate to have access to a very nice private jet for business travel.. )

been there done that...... (the weight not the private jet).

regardless of if i am over weight or not i will always have a weight problem. a few years ago (over a £200 bet with a mate of all things ) i lost 7 stone. i did it through running and at my peak was doing almost 6 mile runs in (just) under 45 mins 3 times a week, hardly olympic speeds but for me it was outstanding. for a short window life was brilliant and it made me feel so confident....
it got to the point where it was easy to maintain as well. my runs by my reckoning were burning around 1000 calories, that combined with some other exercise on my non running days allowed me to eat and drink what i wanted (fairly healthily but still portion size issues).

then i knackered my knee. had to have a pretty big operation on it, could not walk unaided for a few months, could not contemplate running for..... iirc 6 months. out of shape, and more importantly out of the groove, and never managed to get back into it again. almost all the weight is back on and now - with my athsma combined with wieght i get breathless walking up the hill part of my run that i used to fartlek sprint up

SpellowHouse · 19 Apr 2023 at 17:08

bigmike20vt said:
been there done that...... (the weight not the private jet).

regardless of if i am over weight or not i will always have a weight problem. a few years ago (over a £200 bet with a mate of all things ) i lost 7 stone. i did it through running and at my peak was doing almost 6 mile runs in (just) under 45 mins 3 times a week, hardly olympic speeds but for me it was outstanding. for a short window life was brilliant and it made me feel so confident....
it got to the point where it was easy to maintain as well. my runs by my reckoning were burning around 1000 calories, that combined with some other exercise on my non running days allowed me to eat and drink what i wanted (fairly healthily but still portion size issues).

then i knackered my knee. had to have a pretty big operation on it, could not walk unaided for a few months, could not contemplate running for..... iirc 6 months. out of shape, and more importantly out of the groove, and never managed to get back into it again. almost all the weight is back on and now - with my athsma combined with wieght i get breathless walking up the hill part of my run that i used to fartlek sprint up

Oh, there is no doubt about it, it's as hard as hell. It's the only addiction where you can't stop, you just have to limit yourself and you have to do that every single day.

I don't know what to think really. I suppose it depends on how you think about yourself. I was always very blunt with myself about weight, maybe that's why I am blunt with others too.

tenofspades · 19 Apr 2023 at 20:19

I demand free seats, and the breakfast due to each seat!

danielanthony · 19 Apr 2023 at 21:41

I'm a larger guy and I only fly for business trips, US/India, so long haul. My company will only pay for economy class tickets via their own booking agent, and often, I will do an airport upgrade to premium economy if there are seats available.

If airlines start charging by weight, this is great for me as I'll get to fly business class, and my thinner colleagues will be stuck in economy. A win for the fatties.

Freddie1980 · 19 Apr 2023 at 22:39

Mesai said:
They already have luggage scales and those measuring stands for suitcases - same should apply to people.

Doesn't seem right she can pay the same price for one seat yet she weighs more then my fiancee, suitcase and luggage combined who has to pay extra to take additional bags.

Peter75 · 20 Apr 2023 at 10:37

Under active thyroids effect 1 in 1000 men and 15 in 1000 women and It's pretty rare for weight gain to be caused by a medical condition, mostly is due to poor lifestyle choices and unchecked greed. We should not be enabling unhealthy and quite frankly ludicrous entitlement. Put the ******* pork pie down, stop crying into your pringles and take a walk for christ sake.

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Bassmansam · 20 Apr 2023 at 11:06

As someone trying to lose 1 stone and i am making progress albeit slowly, this just came up on my youtube feed, I have not watched it and i hope its a clickbait title.

Please tell me it is?

bigmike20vt · 20 Apr 2023 at 11:10

i am not an expert but i can tell you running is the primary reason i lost 7 stone in 12 months.

didnt do anything good for my knees however but that is probably more to do with my £10 trainers i ran in and running on footpaths.

its not just weight loss either.... it sorted out my high blood pressure as well (and indeed even tho my weight has gone back on my blood pressure is still good, so perhaps my work was not all wasted)

Mesai · 20 Apr 2023 at 11:25

Bassmansam said:
As someone trying to lose 1 stone and i am making progress albeit slowly, this just came up on my youtube feed, I have not watched it and i hope its a clickbait title.

Please tell me it is?

Dieting/managing your calories will give you the biggest benefit when trying to lose weight. Honestly, even if you just count your calories on something like MyFitnessPal for a week, you'll gain a lot of insight into just how much certain things contribute to your daily allowance.

Cardio is an excellent support for dieting - just getting your heart-rate up for 20-30min a day is great for your health.

The 3rd level is resistance training, which is not everyones cup of tea, but that has further benefits.

TLDR; manage calories (good quality calories) > cardio > resistance training. At the very least you should do the first 2.

JRed · 20 Apr 2023 at 11:29

Cardio will help but throw in some form of weight training and you should see a marked improvement, albeit you may end up putting on more muscle which weighs more than fat.

Depends if your goal is just to lose weight, or to improve physique etc as well.

SexyGreyFox · 20 Apr 2023 at 11:41

bigmike20vt said:
i am not an expert but i can tell you running is the primary reason i lost 7 stone in 12 months.

didnt do anything good for my knees however but that is probably more to do with my £10 trainers i ran in and running on footpaths.

its not just weight loss either.... it sorted out my high blood pressure as well (and indeed even tho my weight has gone back on my blood pressure is still good, so perhaps my work was not all wasted)

I started running in 1999 at the age of 41 and quickly moved to half marathons and full marathons.
Around 10 years later I had blood tests and was found to be diabetic, I'd ran a marathon that weekend and my GP said I need to do something about it.
I said "How the hell can I be diabetic, I'm one of the fittest blokes you will come across?" so he asked what I ate.
Of course I ate a lot of high carbs for my fuel and he said "That's why you've got diabetes"

About 10 years ago I started to have a knee problem and by 2014 I couldn't run any more because I had completely damaged my right knee with running, last year I had a full knee replacement.

The moral of this story is to do small runs and don't eat a lot of carbs.
Now as an out of control diabetic who has got to go to another appointment because my Hb1Ac is 66, I'm looking at injections.

Bassmansam · 20 Apr 2023 at 11:44

Mesai said:
Dieting/managing your calories will give you the biggest benefit when trying to lose weight. Honestly, even if you just count your calories on something like MyFitnessPal for a week, you'll gain a lot of insight into just how much certain things contribute to your daily allowance.

Cardio is an excellent support for dieting - just getting your heart-rate up for 20-30min a day is great for your health.

The 3rd level is resistance training, which is not everyones cup of tea, but that has further benefits.

TLDR; manage calories (good quality calories) > cardio > resistance training. At the very least you should do the first 2.

I know its really boring but 4x a week for lunch i have cannelini beans with cucumber/spring onions/ feta and for dinner i have turkey mince with kidney beans. No simple carbs and i'm definitely feeling better on this diet.