Police fired at in Champs Eleysee

Arazi · 21 Apr 2017 at 15:46

Aye ok, i'll wait until i am proven wrong.

hyperseven · 21 Apr 2017 at 15:47

Arazi said:
Er, no i don't think so, 2 of us think you used a deflect and defend tactic, don't worry, others do it also, you are not the only one.

You are coming across as sounding very immature.

...But....But....2 of us, give it a break :rolleyes:

What is wrong with #101?

Vonhelmet · 21 Apr 2017 at 15:49

Craterloads said:
I think my description was accurate, not sure what you are struggling with. He's already been sentenced to 20 years in prison for violence against the police...

They want him to be a terrorist, it fits their narrative.

Basically, any crime committed by a brown person is Islamic terrorism. I think that's how it works.

Craterloads · 21 Apr 2017 at 15:52

Vonhelmet said:
They want him to be a terrorist, it fits their narrative.

He may well be, you would have to be trying really hard to push an agenda to take issue with my accurate sentence.

StriderX · 21 Apr 2017 at 15:59

It fits my agenda if hes a vegan, down with vegans.

It fits my agenda if hes an atheist down with non believers.

It fits my agenda if he supports Chelsea FC, etc.

It doesn't matter if it fits your agenda, all that matters is the truth.

Chris Wilson · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:05

Vonhelmet said:
They want him to be a terrorist, it fits their narrative.

Basically, any crime committed by a brown person is Islamic terrorism. I think that's how it works.

Have you seen a photo of this man? I haven't seen anything showing him pictorially? Or are you making an assumption?

Based on what....?

Arazi · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:05

Well this has got be a new one, deflect and defenders now defending fellow deflect and defenders, it's like an apprenticeship

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Time set another rod up.

gettothechopper · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:15

Arazi said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39580594

According to that link it is an Islamist.

And yes, let's all crack on whilst scumbags are now placing nail bombs in coach furniture, yeah lets just crack, deflect and defend tactic?

you were going on about the same rubbish in the other thread about the football coach - which it turns out you were wrong about

Vonhelmet · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:15

Arazi said:
Time set another rod up.

Coherent sentence.

Vonhelmet · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:17

Chris Wilson said:
Have you seen a photo of this man? I haven't seen anything showing him pictorially? Or are you making an assumption?

Based on what....?

Ok, sorry, you're right, I've missed a bit. Let me rephrase...

Any crime committed by anyone is an act of terrorism perpetrated by an Islamist - likely brown - until proven otherwise.

Is that closer to how you process these things?

Arazi · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:24

gettothechopper said:
you were going on about the same rubbish in the other thread about the football coach - which it turns out you were wrong about

How is that my fault if the BBC and many more called it wrong, if it is in fact wrong.

Arazi · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:24

Vonhelmet said:
Coherent sentence.

Well done.

e: Deflect and defend tactics are used regardless if time tells that the attack isn't an Islamist terror attack, they are still used in these kind of threads regardless of the outcome.

Tefal · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:33

did they find the reason yet?

Arazi · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:36

Tefal said:
did they find the reason yet?

I am sure i caught the tale end of something about it being organized crime related, but i have not looked into it yet, I don't know how true it is though.

e: I'm talking about the coach attack as that is what i thought you meant, I don't know the full reason behind last nights attack.

gettothechopper · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:37

Arazi said:
How is that my fault if the BBC and many more called it wrong, if it is in fact wrong.

The same thing happens everytime one of these incidents occurs

The Mouth Foamers on here are screaming "see! told you" as fast as they can type before anything at all has been established other than "something bad has happened"
Facts are all over the place at the start, because it takes some time for invesigations to find out what is actually happening or publish full statements, the rumours and twitter rubbish also hype this upto the maximum. The Rubbisher news channels also have started publishing these twitter things as facts. the BBC in that case are just publishing what the police told them, who I suppose at that stage suspected the wrong person?

I even see people on here moaning that the police cant get their facts straight like an hour after something has happend- its almost like maybe they need some time to you know actually investigate the incident ?

Most of the people on here you are wrongly assuming are apologists are just pointing out that its prudent to wait until a clearer picture about what is going on is available before attributing acts to terrorism. for a start you are achieving exactly the kind of hysteria that ISIS are trying to provoke

Tefal · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:38

Arazi said:
I am sure i caught the tale end of something about it being organized crime related, but i have not looked into it yet, I don't know how true it is though.

e: I'm talking about the coach attack as that is what i thought you meant, I don't know the full reason behind last nights attack.

oh i meant the paris shooting.

i thought the bus attackl was a footbal thing?

Arazi · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:42

gettothechopper said:
The same thing happens everytime one of these incidents occurs

The Mouth Foamers on here are screaming "see! told you" as fast as they can type before anything at all has been established other than "something bad has happened"
Facts are all over the place at the start, because it takes some time for invesigations to find out what is actually happening or publish full statements, the rumours and twitter rubbish also hype this upto the maximum. The Rubbisher news channels also have started publishing these twitter things as facts. the BBC in that case are just publishing what the police told them, who I suppose at that stage suspected the wrong person?

I even see people on here moaning that the police cant get their facts straight like an hour after something has happend- its almost like maybe they need some time to you know actually investigate the incident ?

Most of the people on here you are wrongly assuming are apologists are just pointing out that its prudent to wait until a clearer picture about what is going on is available before attributing acts to terrorism. for a start you are achieving exactly the kind of hysteria that ISIS are trying to provoke

I am sure that i have not said this is an Islamist attack, but i know what you are saying.

Arazi · 21 Apr 2017 at 16:44

Tefal said:
oh i meant the paris shooting.

i thought the bus attackl was a footbal thing?

I'm already mixed up haha, i pointed out earlier that he was known to security services like the rest of the attacks have been, I know this does not mean it's Islamist, could be just a vendetta, he had a criminal record of violent crime.

e: Update from the BBC, he was on a terror list:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39663300

Skunkworks · 21 Apr 2017 at 17:22

Vonhelmet said:
Ok, sorry, you're right, I've missed a bit. Let me rephrase...

Any crime committed by anyone is an act of terrorism perpetrated by an Islamist - likely brown - until proven otherwise.

Is that closer to how you process these things?

Stop playing dumb, everyone can see this has all the hallmarks of Islamism.

Vonhelmet · 21 Apr 2017 at 17:32

BBC now reporting he has an islamy name and had a note from is with him.

Hey ho.