Policeman

I have nothing but respect for the police force, I have been pulled over a few times with good reason and they have always been friendly polite and never given any hassel. I also work with the police pretty much every weekend at work and they are a great bunch of people certainly in the staffordshire force we are all on pretty much first name terms now. We give them respect and they respect us, if you give police a lot of lip and attitude what do you expect back.
 
crashuk said:
their has to be a reason
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sorry but they dont

a mate of my partners was a copper, and he'd stop somebody if he thought they were hot (female obviously)

what they cant do is search you unless they have grounds, but in the OPs case, he had a plastic bullet belt on the parcel shelf, enough to warrant a search in most judge's eys, who'se to say untill he did have a closer look it wasnt fake and a gun and bullets werent in the boot ?
 
So•H I Gunit H**•mp3 said:
Ive recently found this out! Ive been searched 3 times now, never got a search record for any of them, although they did tell me why.
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They 'should' give you the slip at the time. However, if they can justify why they didn't then they don't have to. You will be able to collect a copy from their nick for up to twelve months.



So•H I Gunit H**•mp3 said:
Imagine if you had the power to stop/search people. What would you do? Find some chavs, pull them over just to be nosey. If any of them get remotely abusive, lock them up! Fun init? :D
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I can honestly say....... no.
 
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[OZ] said:
The OP is in Northern Ireland and the Stop & Search rule book is only applicable in England & Wales. I would imagine there are a similar set of guidelines though. He could always ask his father as he has also stated he is a Police Officer. :cool:
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D'oh! Didn't spot that. No idea if the N.Irish have the very same laws we do? I'd assume so as technicaly it's British....... Anyone know for sure?
 
OP, what a waste of your time, and a waste of taxpayers money.

I, like lots of others in this thread, and life generally am bored and ashamed of the attitude of our national Police Force.

It seems that some people, certainly some people who post on this forum have some alliance with the police and i've got no idea why. All me and every single one of my friends, family and acquaintances have never had one single good encounter with the Police, so i cant understand this pro Police attitude.

Happy new Year all!
 
stokefan said:
All me and every single one of my friends, family and acquaintances have never had one single good encounter with the Police,
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I suspect that this tells us a lot more about you, your friends, family and acquaintances than it does about the police. One or two encounters, maybe. But all of them? That's not the police...


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YoungBlood said:
could have been worse, he could have burned out your clutch :p Clicky
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The police officer had the car running for about 10sec. The guy complained the 2nd officer rolled back, and it looked about all of 1 foot. All credibility is lost IMO when he claims that his clutch was being burnt out when in fact the car was gently moved at low revs into the curb.
 
[OZ] said:
The OP is in Northern Ireland and the Stop & Search rule book is only applicable in England & Wales. I would imagine there are a similar set of guidelines though. He could always ask his father as he has also stated he is a Police Officer. :cool:
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Scotland got a little self automomy but I think u will find that Northern Ireland is happy to follow English law as opposed to the Republic of Ireland's law.
 
megatron said:
The police officer had the car running for about 10sec. The guy complained the 2nd officer rolled back, and it looked about all of 1 foot. All credibility is lost IMO when he claims that his clutch was being burnt out when in fact the car was gently moved at low revs into the curb.
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Have to agree with you! If that burned out the clutch it must be a clutch made of paper! Wouldnt suprise me if the guy intentionally set up the camera and drove to cause trouble at the checkpoint - especially as the video starts out just as he is approaching it and he says "Oooh looks like a checkpoint". Why would he talk to himself lol.
 
Jihad said:
I had a Police Officer threaten to beat me when I was like 14, just because we were throwing them little Snap things that make a bang when you throw them, like 25p for a small box of them.
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Did you needlessly say "like" more than once per sentence then too? Maybe he thought you were a yank, and took a dislike to you. He's only human. :p
 
stokefan said:
OP, what a waste of your time, and a waste of taxpayers money.

I, like lots of others in this thread, and life generally am bored and ashamed of the attitude of our national Police Force.
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I fail to see why stopping vehicles is a waste of taxpayers' money. Yes, many times the stop will be fruitless but amazingly enough, the police don't know that in advance. Certainly rudeness by police officers isn't acceptable, but I'd say it's safe to assume that their intentions aren't solely to annoy people.

For the record, we don't have a 'national Police Force', we have various Police Services (in the UK).

stokefan said:
It seems that some people, certainly some people who post on this forum have some alliance with the police and i've got no idea why. All me and every single one of my friends, family and acquaintances have never had one single good encounter with the Police, so i cant understand this pro Police attitude.
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Just because you claim to have had bad experiences with the Police, clearly doesn't mean everyone has - why is that hard to understand?

I also think that people need to stop letting bad encounters with the Police (either directly or indirectly i.e. 'a friend said...') represent all Police Officers. There are far more good police officers out there than 'bad' ones, but unfortunately (as is always the case), we generally only hear of the bad incidents.

That's not to try to excuse those bad incidents in any way - that sort of behaviour by police officers is unacceptable because it inevitably reflects poorly on other POs too - but it'd be nice if people didn't tar them with the same brush.
 
Meridian said:
As for the OP, the police do have to have a reason, but they don't have to tell you what it is.
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bah police used all kinbd of trickws like 'do you mind if i come in ' most people consent to it so you gfive thgem all the time in the world to a search withou t a warrant
 
They're not vampires: they can't do what they want just becaue you let them into your house. If they need a warrant (and they don't for certain things like suspected drug or firearms offences) then they don't need to ask you, and if they do need a warrant they can't just start searching because you've let them in.


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A story of a good police officer: cars both out of driveway, middle of day, and ladder up the side of my house where I had been washing my windows. Stepped down and was out of sight for a while. Police man came along and had a look out for any nasty nasty burglars. I thanked him dearly, very nice young man.

Just putting the point out that I am generally pro PSNI ;)

Hope everyone had a safe night last night, we trashed a students house who were away for christmas break in whiteabbey - was awesome :)
 
I don't understand how people can think it's OK to be pulled over and searched for no reason. Just more people who are fans of the big brother state we're creating around us.

Policemen aren't allowed to search you for no reason - if I was pulled over, I would never consent to a search or give any more details than I am legally required. Fair enough if I was driving erradically(sp?) or there was a shotgun on my parcel shelf, or I was wanted. But I'm not wanted and I don't drive erradically nor own a shotgun.

It's not ok for a random stranger to search my car for no reason, so why should a police officer be allowed to just because he's wearing uniform?

Also, it's clear that some officers are looking for a fight. You just need to watch a few police chase programs to find that out - they're patronising, arrogant bullies who need to be put back in their place.

Not all of them, obviously. There are some very nice police people - and I appreciate the ones who say good morning to you when you walk past them. I think it's nice when a person becomes a police officer, but it's not nice when a person becomes a pig :p
 
furnace said:
I don't understand how people can think it's OK to be pulled over and searched for no reason. Just more people who are fans of the big brother state we're creating around us.

Policemen aren't allowed to search you for no reason - if I was pulled over, I would never consent to a search or give any more details than I am legally required. Fair enough if I was driving erradically(sp?) or there was a shotgun on my parcel shelf, or I was wanted. But I'm not wanted and I don't drive erradically nor own a shotgun.

It's not ok for a random stranger to search my car for no reason, so why should a police officer be allowed to just because he's wearing uniform?

Also, it's clear that some officers are looking for a fight. You just need to watch a few police chase programs to find that out - they're patronising, arrogant bullies who need to be put back in their place.

Not all of them, obviously. There are some very nice police people - and I appreciate the ones who say good morning to you when you walk past them. I think it's nice when a person becomes a police officer, but it's not nice when a person becomes a pig :p
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I think when people, possibly like yourself, become all defensive with the "i'm not going to tell you anything because i don't have to", they're basically asking for it. Sure you get some coppers who are ***** but then there are the people who they deal with who are even bigger *****, especially the people who insist on making their lives difficult with all their "i don't have to, if i don't want to", kiddy ****.

The other day i was watchin tv and some guy had been seriously assaulted, fully KO'd with blood everywhere on his face, and the police officers were trying to run round finding people the matched the description of the attackers, found a couple of youths, asked to see their hands to see if they had blood on, but these youths for about 2 mins were doing the 'why should i?', then they eventually showed the cops their hands, and they had nothing on them. In the meantime the real attacker got away.
 
Gaygle said:
I think when people, possibly like yourself, become all defensive with the "i'm not going to tell you anything because i don't have to", they're basically asking for it. Sure you get some coppers who are ***** but then there are the people who they deal with who are even bigger *****, especially the people who insist on making their lives difficult with all their "i don't have to, if i don't want to", kiddy ****.

The other day i was watchin tv and some guy had been seriously assaulted, fully KO'd with blood everywhere on his face, and the police officers were trying to run round finding people the matched the description of the attackers, found a couple of youths, asked to see their hands to see if they had blood on, but these youths for about 2 mins were doing the 'why should i?', then they eventually showed the cops their hands, and they had nothing on them. In the meantime the real attacker got away.
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If the policeman said to them "Someone matching your description has assaulted a man (etc), I would like to see your hands" I bet they would have shown them to him much quicker. And if they matched the description, he would have legal grounds to arrest/detain them under suspicion(sp). But if the policeman approached those people purely because of their image and age, then the policeman was in the wrong to ask to see their hands and they shouldn't have to show them to him. Maybe if these kids hadn't have got the bad image of police from other time wasting cops they've probably dealt with, they would have been more cooperative with him.

You need to have the right mentality and attitude to be a policeman, and a lot of them don't. You watch some of these police programs and quite often the cops must have something stuck up their a** :rolleyes:
 
furnace said:
If the policeman said to them "Someone matching your description has assaulted a man (etc), I would like to see your hands" I bet they would have shown them to him much quicker. And if they matched the description, he would have legal grounds to arrest/detain them under suspicion(sp). But if the policeman approached those people purely because of their image and age, then the policeman was in the wrong to ask to see their hands and they shouldn't have to show them to him. Maybe if these kids hadn't have got the bad image of police from other time wasting cops they've probably dealt with, they would have been more cooperative with him.

You need to have the right mentality and attitude to be a policeman, and a lot of them don't. You watch some of these police programs and quite often the cops must have something stuck up their a** :rolleyes:
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I agree that sometimes some coppers are unduely harsh and need to handle things better, but if a copper comes running up to you in the street, why should he/she waste time explaining to you the situation, if you've got nothing to hide, let them see your hands and be on their way looking for the real criminal, it was based on a description! Its just stuff like that which deliberately obstructs police from doing their job and makes it harder, when it doesn't have to be.
 
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